{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"Ep 9: Dune as Nietzschean Fable; Should You Drink the Water of Life?","description":"The Philosophers focus will cover the David Lynch movie, with some bits from the books to flesh it out.\r\n \r\nBruce brings up that Paul Atreides does not fit the part of a Nietzschean hero at the start.\r\n \r\nThe Philosophers discusses why Paul does not meet the criteria in greater detail.\r\n \r\nRyver compares this story to the Golden Bough.\r\n \r\nSean talks about the Chosen One legends of the various groups in the Dune Universe.\r\n \r\nBruce sets forth the criteria of being a Nietzschean Hero.\r\n \r\nRyver sets us down the path of Paul's journey, starting with his first Trials on Arrakis.\r\n \r\nSean explains the division of identity between Paul Atreides and Paul Muad'Dib.\r\n \r\nSean explains the Sardaukar guard.\r\n \r\nThe Philosophers discuss the stripping of all of Paul's advantages.\r\n \r\nRyver talks about Paul's introspection in the desert.\r\n \r\nSean talks about Paul's meeting with the Fremen, and the similarities between the Fremen and the Sardaukar.\r\n \r\nRyver and Sean gives a breakdown of the meeting with the Fremen.\r\n \r\nSean talks about how the Fremen react to Paul's mother.\r\n \r\nSean explains the Weirding Way.\r\n \r\nRyver compares the Weirding Way to an example of Nietzschean aphorisms.\r\n \r\nSean and Ryver discuss the importance of water to the lives and culture of the Fremen.\r\n \r\nRyver talks about the importance of Spice to the peoples of the Landsraad.\r\n \r\nSean discusses Spice as a luxury good.\r\n \r\nBruce talks about the important of Spice to the Guild Navigators.\r\n \r\nRyver explains the outward signs of constantly being around the Spice.\r\n \r\nSean points out that Paul is discovered early on to seemingly innately possess some of the skills necessary to survive in the desert.\r\n \r\nRyver points out that this may have something to do with his emerging prescience. Sean concedes the possibility.\r\n \r\nRyver explains a Montage in a rather lengthy fashion.\r\n \r\nRyver talks about the rise to power amongst the Fremen,\r\n \r\nBruce points out the connection between this story and elements found in stories like Dances with Wolves or the Last Samurai.\r\n \r\nSean points out that many of these similarities don't really hold up to Paul's actual journey.\r\n \r\nRyver explains the difference between the Fremen and the idea of the “Noble Savage”.\r\n \r\nSean explains that the source of hardness amongst the Fremen likely stems from the fact that they live on a planet that is actively trying to kill them, a planet on which these people are not only born, but thrive. Ryver sums this up as Space Australia.\r\n \r\nRyver talks about The Golden Bough again.\r\n \r\nBruce talks about the early signs of Paul being the Chosen One, but that there is a key element that cannot be preordained, but that must be tested.\r\n \r\nSean talks about the tests of the Bene Gesserit, and the prohibition that Paul's mother not produce male children.\r\n \r\nRyver and Sean talk about these tests as a test of Metal.\r\n \r\nBruce brings up the ritual of the Water of Life.\r\n \r\nSean and Ryver explain the ritual in greater detail, and the horrifying death that is always been the result of males undergoing this ritual.\r\n \r\nRyver and Bruce discuss Paul's undertaking of the ritual.\r\n \r\nRyver talks about the Golden Bough again, and how it relates to the story of Dune.\r\n \r\nSean discusses the meanings behind the rituals of the Bene Gesserit, and the passing of knowledge of the Reverend Mothers.\r\n \r\nSean talks about the transformation of Paul Muad'Dib into the Übermensch.\r\n \r\nRyver compares a scene from the end of the story to a great Nietzsche quote\r\n \r\nBruce talks about Paul's desire to tear down the existing social structure, rather than retake his place in it.\r\n \r\nSean brings us to the final battle.\r\n \r\nRyver and Sean talk about Paul's name becoming “a killing word”.\r\n \r\nBruce includes “riding around a giant sand worm” in Paul's list of assets.\r\n \r\nRyver explains that there is a difference between the atomics used in the final battle and what we consider nuclear weapons.\r\n \r\nThe Philosopher discuss this as an indication of Paul casting off the moral restrictions of the society he comes from.\r\n \r\nSean talks about the scene in the throne room at the end of the movie, and the implications of the battle therein. Paul's enemy is destroyed completely through his Will alone.\r\n \r\nRyver brings up The Golden Bough again, comparing this to the moment of Ascension.\r\n \r\nSean explains the significance of Paul bringing Rain to Arrakis with his Will alone.\r\n \r\nBruce and Sean talk about the importance of Paul's willingness to battle Fade in the throne room.\r\n \r\nThe Philosophers give a detailed recap the movie from the point of Nietzschean analysis.\r\n \r\nSean discusses the way in which “That which is done for Love occurs beyond Good and Evil” is the story of Paul from even the moment of his conception.\r\n \r\n \r\nRyver takes The Last Word, and discusses The Golden Bough and how it relates to Dune.\r\n \r\nAnd as always please give us your honest review on iTunes and Stitcher. 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