{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"Episode 58: The Art of the Beef","description":"After witnessing a TikTok \u201cbeef\u201d between the \u201cMozart of Gen Z\u201d Jacob Collier and Rick Rubin, Alec and Nick take up \u201cdes arts de boeuf\u201d as a space to discuss the implicitly disagreeable nature of musical aesthetics. The conversation uses these two maestro\u2019s different perspectives to inquire into the role of the audience and its relationship to creativity, musical genius and virtuosity, and the underlying political assumptions evident in their arguments. More, the two discuss the act of a \u201cbeef\u201d or disagreement as an illuminating tension that highlights core hypocrisies, embarrassments, and ironies within our aesthetics and politics. Irony is discussed as a dominating \u201ccoin of the realm\u201d in which true untruths are exchanged with untrue truths \u2014 a continuum that develops into political binaries of liberalism and fascism, and the nature of aesthetic and political revolution. The conversation also uses this as a foil to discuss the recent full course Beef of Drake versus Kendrick Lamar, and questions the musical \u201cavant-garde\u201d as a progressive medium for art or politics. ","author_name":"Flavortone","author_url":"http:\/\/flavortone.libsyn.com\/website","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/31365532\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/ff0000\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/content\/193162690"}