{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"Martinez &amp; Howe | The Roundup | 02-05-23","description":"If the &quot;Special Military Operation&quot; in Ukraine was really about liberating ethnic Russians in the Donbass, why do Lavrov and Shoigu keep calling for &quot;total denazification&quot; and the abolition of the Ukrainian national identity? Defining &quot;Ukrainian&quot; as an extremist ideology rather than as an individuated ethnic group isn't entirely unlike how leftists try to pathologize &quot;whiteness.&quot; Martinez and Howe weigh in. Welcome to The Roundup! ","author_name":"So To Speak w\/ Jared Howe","author_url":"http:\/\/jaredhowesotospeak.libsyn.com","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/25841886\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/content\/145762281"}