{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"The Real Deal - with Deedre Daniel and Guest: Trent Modglin","description":"Do you want to travel more but think you don't have the money to do it? Do you stay home and watch Netflix because you think that is the only entertainment you can afford? Do you want to start a writing side hustle? Trent Modglin is the publisher, writer, and creator of three popular Chicago magazines. He talks to Deedre Daniel about: \ud83c\udf99 How Deedre became a Florida State University alumnus without technically graduating from the institution. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; \ud83c\udf99 How Trent turned his passion project (which was also a creative way to score free event tickets, restaurant meals, and beers) into a profitable business for 14 years. \ud83c\udf99 His creative money-making solution when COVID-19 shut down his business. \ud83c\udf99 The importance of learning new technical skills and how to sell yourself and your ideas. \ud83c\udf99 How he heard \u201cNo\u201d 27 times before he got to his first \u201cYes.\u201d &amp;nbsp; \ud83c\udf99 The importance of cultivating real relationships to grow and sustain your business. \ud83c\udf99 How Trent immersed himself into the Chicago micro-brewing universe. \ud83c\udf99 Trent\u2019s money-saving travel tips for you. \ud83c\udf99 Why his wife slept with 16 other people during their honeymoon. \ud83c\udf99 His \u201cmust do and see\u201d ideas for you the next time you visit Chicago \u2013 including a small bar that serves the best deep-dish pizza. &amp;nbsp; This episode ends with some questions from The Very Interesting Game \u2013 some are brand new. One was written just before this podcast recording. Stick around to hear Trent\u2019s funny answers. &amp;nbsp; Bio: Trent is the Publisher of several magazines: The Real Park Ridge, Illinois Brewing, and The Real Chicago (currently on hiatus). He was a senior editor at Pro Football weekly. He is a proud Florida State alum who still gets more nervous on football Saturdays than he should. He is also a semi-patient herder of cats \u2013 because he coaches 3rd grade flag football and basketball so he can spend more time with his cute son, Owen. &amp;nbsp; Do you know someone who lives a fascinating life or looks at the world through the lens of humor? Nominate them on a future episode by sending several ridiculous and intriguing questions about them to Service@interestingconversations.com. No need to send a BIO or fill out a lengthy application! If your nominee is selected, you will receive a shout-out on that episode, a SHUT UP and SAY SOMETHING!\u00ae sticker, and a mug of your choice from the merch page on  interestingconversations.com. &amp;nbsp; Contact or Follow Deedre Daniel here: https:\/\/interestingconversations.com\/links\/ Originally recorded on December 5, 2022 ","author_name":"Shut Up and Say Something!\u00ae with Deedre Daniel","author_url":"https:\/\/interestingconversations.com\/shut-up-and-say-something-podcast-with-deedre-daniel\/","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/25353828\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/content\/142693122"}