{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"Part 3 of Our Conversation with Tom Campbell\u2014The Nature of Reality","description":" What is the nature of reality and how is consciousness interacting with it? &quot;Science is not fundamentally mathematical. Science is fundamentally logical.&quot;&amp;nbsp; Tom's &quot;evolutionary model&quot; is based on logic. &quot;The MBT (My Big Toe) trilogy, I made specifically as an on ramp for left brained and logical thinkers. ...It builds on a logical process....and they [the MBT books] tend to be a little hard to read for the right brainers.&quot;  &quot;The mystics and right brainers get it. ...They intuit the answer... and get to the end [of the book] and say 'well you needed all that to get there? I got there before you started.'&quot; People who are rational, who like science and who want to have logical process...it [MBT trilogy] will lead them to the mystical result...because that's where logic takes you.&quot; ","author_name":"Expanding on Consciousness","author_url":"https:\/\/sites.libsyn.com\/416576","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/24940449\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/item\/24940449"}