{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"Passing Pt 2: The Roles We Play with Chaz Ebert and Brenda Robinson","description":"We return to explore the theme of passing \u2013 and the duality of preserving one\u2019s identity while being forced to navigate the world in certain ways.&amp;nbsp; Joining us for this episode are producer and philanthropist Brenda Robinson and CEO and civil rights attorney Chaz Ebert. As Executive Producers on the film Passing (2021), Brenda and Chaz have so much to share on their respective roles, as well as the vital importance of the critically-acclaimed movie.&amp;nbsp; Together, we examine systems of oppression and share personal stories of what we gotta do \u2013 and what we\u2019ve had to do \u2013 to survive and thrive historically. We also examine Modern Day Passing and the many ways we might pass (intentionally or otherwise) outside of skin color. &amp;nbsp; What is modern-day passing and what are the roles we play to gain equity? How do you find ways to fit into the dominant culture? How do you stay true to self and show up empowered and authentic to everything that you are? &amp;nbsp; QUESTIONS Power-producers Chaz Ebert and Brenda Robinson join hosts Jason and Yvonne Lee to talk access. In this mini-reunion, these four friends and film professionals share why they do what they do \u2013 and that is to lift and provide opportunity for voices of color working in film. By highlighting impactful projects like Regina Hall\u2019s award-winning debut film, Passing, to new projects like veteran Lisa Cortes\u2019 documentary Empire of Ebony which covers 70 years of culture from Ebony and Jet magazines, we learn from the inside what it\u2019s like to operate from what can often feel like the outside. We also learn that what matters in this industry is being empowered from within, showing up to the table as your authentic self\u2026 and knowing that the table you\u2019re at is THE table.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; What do you gain by not having to pass as anything? &amp;nbsp; In our very first episode with a delicious mocktail, we acknowledge the increasingly popular addition of inclusive mocktails as a beverage choice in social situations. Jason whips up a non-alcoholic French 75 and the conversation flows, as always. Knowing that modern-day passing takes on many, many forms, our guests also share personal stories of how passing has affected them and how it has shown up in their own families. Yvonne poingantly presents Chaz and Brenda with their confessional question, what more needs to be done&amp;nbsp; so that people of color can show up authentically and not have to pass for anything? &amp;nbsp; For more spirited discussions, make sure to subscribe to the podcast. And if you\u2019ve enjoyed thinking and mocktailing along with us, we\u2019d love for you to leave us a review. &amp;nbsp; Cheers \u2026 and Please Drink Responsibly! &amp;nbsp; Links: &amp;nbsp; Guests: Brenda K. Robinson  https:\/\/www.filmindependent.org\/people\/brenda-robinson\/ &amp;nbsp; Chaz Ebert https:\/\/www.rogerebert.com\/contributors\/chaz-ebert    Book:&amp;nbsp; Passing by Nella Larsen  https:\/\/www.barnesandnoble.com\/w\/passing-nella-larsen\/1001883168 &amp;nbsp; Film:&amp;nbsp; 'Passing' filmmaker Rebecca Hall shares the personal story behind her movie  https:\/\/www.npr.org\/2021\/11\/30\/1059824073\/passing-rebecca-hall-film &amp;nbsp; Empire of Ebony  https:\/\/deadline.com\/2021\/02\/the-empire-of-ebony-lisa-cortes-documentary-ebony-jet-magazine-one-story-up-1234700486\/ &amp;nbsp; LIFE Camp (Erica Ford, Violence Interupter) https:\/\/www.peaceisalifestyle.com\/ &amp;nbsp; A Most Beautiful Thing https:\/\/www.amostbeautifulthing.com\/   Additional Links + Special thanks to: Podcast Haven - https:\/\/thepodcasthaven.com\/ Liam E. Allen (original music) - @Liamea97 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Cocktail Recipe: French 75&amp;nbsp; Mocktail&amp;nbsp; 3\/4 oz lemon juice 1\/2 oz simple syrup Float San Pellegrino Sparkling water&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Cocktail 2 oz gin 3 oz champagne&amp;nbsp; 3\/4 oz lemon juice 1\/2 oz simple syrup &amp;nbsp; Shake ingredients and strain into a champagne flute Float champagne on top Add a lemon slice garnish &amp;nbsp; ","author_name":"Lagralane Spirits","author_url":"http:\/\/lagralanespiritspodcast.libsyn.com\/website","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/23429609\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/content\/129903137"}