{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"#10: Mike Papantonio in The Heart of Law","description":"How, indeed, do we \u201cturn our back from the bull?\u201d Interestingly enough, world-renowned Mike Papantonio\u4e00also known as America\u2019s Lawyer\u4e00tells us how. In this deep-dive, Mirena and Mike (aka Pap) shoot the breeze on the many nuances of lawyering and life. Kudos to our sophic anchor for tracking down one of the most influential and versatile attorneys in our country.  With her gift of gab, Mirena introduces us to the award-winning torts attorney, multi-media talk-show host,  National Trial Lawyers co-owner, Mass Torts Made Perfect conference founder\/co-owner, NW Florida waterways advocate (with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., no less!), athlete, musician, pilot, fiction author extraordinaire all rolled in one \u2026 What can\u2019t Pap do? Interestingly enough, the diversity and excellence of his endeavors attest to the anthem he lives by: \u201cmaintaining the quality of life in anything you\u2019re doing.\u201d &amp;nbsp;When he challenges young associates in his firm to participate in their book club (expecting them to read Orwell\u2019s 1984, Hemingway\u2019s Old Man and the Sea, Lescroart\u2019s The Fall, Steinbeck\u2019s Of Mice and Men) so they can broaden their worldview and learn how to genuinely interact with a jury, it seems he has invaluable insight on the human psyche. It looks like he knows the secret to a well-balanced, well-lived life. &amp;nbsp;Even at the apex of his career, he profoundly says with conviction, \u201cYou can\u2019t live singularly as a lawyer. That can\u2019t be your only identity.\u201d And live, he does.&amp;nbsp; Pap shares how he first encountered the love-of-his-life while \u201cdropping a wing,\u201d&amp;nbsp; barely 50 yards from crashing into The Bonanza as he was flying his plane. Beyond saving him from a near miss and after 37 years of marriage with the \u201cfine-looking blonde at the end of the bar,\u201d he quips about an old Chinese proverb, \u201cYou got to take care of anybody who saves you \u2026 \u201d The lighthearted conversation continues as Pap brightens when he talks about his daughter, Sarah, who blazes her own trail in trial law.&amp;nbsp; In shows like these, we enjoy the rarity of when we catch a glimpse of someone who can confidently look ahead\u4e00secure in his \u201cability and foresight\u201d\u4e00one who disarmingly refuses to grasp life too tightly, too insecurely, too fearfully. He has fame that envelops him, a career that supports him,&amp;nbsp; contemporaries who respect him, friends who enjoy him, a family who loves him. And then we elegantly discover the secret to how we can completely \u201cturn our back from the bull.\u201d EPISODE SURVEY[00:02:50] Adapting to the pandemic[00:16:06] Flying on a plane and meeting the love of his life[00:20:05] The apple doesn\u2019t fall far from the tree.&amp;nbsp;[00:22:02] Mass Tort Made Perfect conference[00:28:38] The effects of third-party capital&amp;nbsp;[00:37:13] Improving mass torts for clients QUOTABLE QUOTES:  &quot;You either shut down under adversity or you create and you expand under adversity.\u201d \u201cYou have to do extraordinary things to get extraordinary results. You have to take extraordinary chances.\u201d \u201cIt's really easy \u2026&amp;nbsp; to get into the same mode where all you're thinking about is what you\u2019re told to think \u2026&amp;nbsp; [your] daddy did it this way, [your] neighbor does it this way and, therefore, this is the only way [you] can do it\u4e00It's really dangerous. \u201c Just take a minute; take a breath and look up a little bit higher \u2026 to something that is not the norm and try it .. Not only will it change the financial aspect of their practice, but it will also change their excitement in their quality of life. \u201cI have a saying \u2026 called \u2018Turning Your Back on the Bull\u2019 \u2026&amp;nbsp; have enough confidence in who you are and in your ability, and in your foresight, and [in] your vision, [but] if you don't have confidence in there, you will never turn your back on the bull. A great bullfighter does that.\u201d &quot;See, that's part of it\u30fcof who you are or [who you are] not, and you can't really put on a show. You can't lie to a jury \u2026 They'll see through it if it's not genuine.&quot;  ABOUT OUR GUEST  Senior Partner of Levin Papantonio Rafferty, P.A. Board Certified Civil Trial Lawyer by the Florida Bar and the National Board of Trial Advocacy Host of America\u2019s Lawyer, a television show on RT America, and Co-host of  Ring of Fire, a popular radio program. Inducted into the National Trial Lawyers\u2019 Hall of Fame (2015) and Former President of The National Trial Lawyers (2012) Author of multiple novels, including four motivational books for lawyers and a series of legal thrillers Member of The International Academy of Trial Lawyers, The International Society of Barristers, The National Trial Lawyers Association, The American Board of Trial Advocates, The American Justice Association, The Southern Trial Lawyers Association, and The Florida Justice Association Recipient of several prestigious awards, including but not limited to, the Compassionate Gladiator Award from the Florida Justice Association (2019), Defender of Justice Award by the American Association for Justice (2015), and the Perry Nichols Award by the Florida Justice Association (2011)  LINKS FROM THE SHOW  Peek into  Mike\u2019s impressive bio and LinkedIn Looking for a thrill? Jump into the pages of Pap\u2019s legal thriller series: Law and Disorder, Law and Vengeance, and Law and Addiction Educate and Encourage! Here are some more of Papantonio\u2019s works:  Resurrecting Aesop - Fables Lawyers Should Remember (2000),  Clarence Darrow, The Journeyman - Lessons for the Modern Lawyer (1997), and  In Search of Atticus Finch - A Motivational Book for Lawyers (1996) Pap\u2019s Radio Show, Ring of Fire in Youtube, Twitter, and Facebook Visit Mirena\u2019s Chic Website and LinkedIn Shownotes and podcast content management by Caryl Veloso  ","author_name":"The Heart of Law","author_url":"http:\/\/heartoflaw.libsyn.com\/website","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/19963133\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/content\/108215357"}