{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"#10 - Anything That Moves - The My Lai Massacre (w\/History on Fire)","description":" This is part 2 of a series I\u2019ve been working on with Daniele Bolelli. In part 1, he covered the 1864 Sand Creek Massacre carried out by the US Army. I was working on my next major series when Daniele asked me to do a companion episode on My Lai, and I couldn\u2019t pass up the opportunity. From his description: \u201cBecause I felt like I was ordered to do it, and it seemed like that, at the time I felt like I was doing the right thing.\u201d \u2014Private First Class Paul Meadlo explaining his role in the My Lai Massacre. \u201cHow do you shoot babies?\u201d Meadlo was then asked. His reply\u2026 \u201cI don\u2019t know. It\u2019s just one of them things.\u201d \u201cI felt then and I still do that I acted as I was directed, and I carried out the order that I was given and I do not feel wrong in doing so.\u201d \u2014 Lieutenant William Calley Jr. addressing his own leadership during the action. \u201cEvery Day\/ On our fellow man we prey\/ Dog eat Dog\/ To Get by\/ Hope you like my genocide\u201d \u2014 The Offspring \u201cHello darkness, my old friend\u2026\u201d \u2014 Simon and Garfunkel \u201cI believe now it is but the commencement of war with this tribe, which must result in their extermination.\u201d \u2014 Major Jacob Downing \u201cDamn any man who sympathizes with Indians! \u2026 I have come to kill Indians, and believe it is right and honorable to use any means under God\u2019s heaven to kill Indians. \u2026 Kill and scalp all, big and little; nits make lice.\u201d \u2014\u2009Quote attributed to Colonel John Chivington \u201cThey were so honorable and so strong, but I felt like they were alone and sometimes when you want to do the right thing, the people that want to do the right thing suffer\u2026 even today.\u201d \u2014Lorraine Waters about Silas Soule and Joseph Cramer \u201cIt was hard to see little children on their knees\u2026 having their brains beat out by men professing to be civilized.\u201d \u2014 Silas Soule I\u2019m not going to lie. This is one of the darkest episodes of History on Fire. But there are reasons for this journey into the heart of darkness. The stories of Sand Creek and My Lai offer an opportunity to explore human agency, the choices separating good and evil, and how some individuals can choose to become sources of light even in the most horrible circumstances. In part B, I hand the microphone to my friend and master podcaster Darryl Cooper (from The Martyrmade Podcast.) Darryl explores the context of the Cold War in order to come to terms with what happened at My Lai, in Vietnam, in 1968. Horror abounds, but if you are looking for heroes in the midst of the horror, you can do a lot worse than hear about the story of Hugh Thompson. Listen on iTunes! ","author_name":"The Martyrmade Podcast","author_url":"http:\/\/www.martyrmade.com","html":"