{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"Dirk Verbeuren (Megadeth)","description":"Dirk Verbeuren has played drums on more extreme metal releases than is reasonable or appropriate for any single human. He took over for Chris Adler as the drummer for Megadeth in 2016, but that hasn\u2019t stopped him from continuing to release underground release after underground release \u2014 including material with the recently revived Cadaver. Dirk not only has freakish technical skill, but he also has the ability to deploy that skill as an improvisational master, an incredible mimic, or a deliberate and exacting architect of complex drumming. Dirk is not just a musician, but is also a drum teacher. His analytical side allows him to be self-reflective and discuss what his thought process looks like while composing and playing. And, this conversation took some unexpected turns into the dangers of conspiracy theories and why even folks with a \u201cdark side\u201d who gravitate toward extreme metal should still work on being more present. Check out more from Dirk here:  Website: www.dirkverbeuren.com | www.megadeth.com Instagram: @dirkverbeuren | @megadeth | @bentsea_ Bandcamp: Bent Sea Radio Show: Dirk\u2019s Extreme Blast airs on Gimme Radio  Dig into Dirk\u2019s impressive discography and a few of his recommended releases here:  Encyclopedia Metallum Sybreed \u201cAntares\u201d Obsydians \u201cPsychodynamics\u201d Tronos \u201cCelestial Mechanics\u201d Scarve \u201cIrradiant\u201d  If you're enjoying the show, the best way to support it is by sharing with your friends. If you don't have any friends,  why not a leave a review? It makes a difference in terms of other people finding the show. You can also subscribe to receive my e-mail newsletter at www.toddnief.com. Most of my writing never makes it to the blog, so get on that list. Show Notes:  [02:34] Improvisation vs having specific instructions when doing drum session work [07:00] Mimicry vs creativity while filling in \u2014 including for Megadeth. Dave Mustaine\u2019s desire for everyone in the band to have creative freedom. [17:46] Growing up with parents supportive of Dirk\u2019s interest in musice \u2014 including buying Cannibal Corpse and NWA records with \u201cconcerning\u201d cover art [21:55] The balance between being analytical and creative \u2014 including Dirk\u2019s interest in science as a kid and the dangers of science denialism and conspiracy theories. [33:20] Touring internationally and being exposed to different cultures [37:05] What is the difference between the ability to mimic and the ability to be creative? How can musicians learn to \u201cturn off\u201d their analytical side in order to be creative? [50:00] Learning to be more present and the dangers of overwork and burnout. [57:33] People into extreme music often have a \u201cdarkness,\u201d but that doesn\u2019t mean they can\u2019t benefit from cultivating the skill of presence. [01:05:00] Dirk\u2019s various projects: recording the new Megadeth album, Bent Sea\u2019s new releases, starting a recording studio, running a radio show for Gimme Radio, and underappreciated gems from his discography  Links and Resources Mentioned  Aborted \u201cMeticulous invagination\u201d drum part Megadeth \u201cWake Up Dead\u201d opening groove Megadeth \u201cThe Conjuring\u201d heavy part Wind of Change Podcast Jon Stewart Control (2007 film) Herzog on the obscenity of the jungle from \u201cThe Burden of Dreams\u201d  Bands and Musicians Mentioned  Aborted Soilwork Slayer Dave Lombardo Paul Bostaph Gar Samuelson Carmine Appice Vinnie Colaiuta Chris Poland The New Yorkers (Chris Poland and Gar Samuelson\u2019s jazz fusion group) Scorpions Mikkey Dee Joy Division Hypocrisy Cannibal Corpse N.W.A. Red Hot Chili Peppers \u201cOne Hot Minute\u201d Busta Rhymes Wu-Tang Clan Beastie Boys Sean Reinert Morbid Angel Repulsion Napalm Death Imperial Triumphant Dodecahedron Shane Embury Midnight Feastem Nasum Godflesh Justin K Broadrick  ","author_name":"Todd Nief's Show","author_url":"http:\/\/toddnief.com","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/15479300\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/969af9\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/item\/15479300"}