{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"Episode 20 The thrill of facilitation with Kathy Jones","description":"Kathy Jones has had decades of experience with community consultation and stakeholder engagement. She is currently a director of The newDemocracy Foundation (as is the interviewer). This conversation covers the thrill of facilitation at the micro-level and its specialist nature, including the distinction between stakeholder engagement and deliberative democracy. Kathy also looks toward systemic change when she imagines possibilities at the macro level. Post-COVID, she speculates that there is a real opportunity right now to build a greater understanding and appreciation of civic responsibility. &amp;nbsp; LINKS KJA \u2013 the firm that Kathy founded&amp;nbsp; John Gastil &amp;amp; Erik Olin Wright (2019) Legislature by Lot. Transformative Designs for Deliberative Governance&amp;nbsp; Geelong case study&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Music acknowledgement. ","author_name":"Facilitating Public Deliberations","author_url":"http:\/\/facilitatingpublicdeliberations.libsyn.com\/website","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/15021044\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/item\/15021044"}