{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"TCMP 001: Ellen Graf-Martin and Melinda Estabrooks on Why Ellen Began The Change Makers Podcast","description":"On the first-ever episode of The Change Makers Podcast, we turn the tables on our host, Ellen Graf-Martin. To give you a taste of what you can expect this season, Ellen sits down with Melinda Estabrooks, the host of the Canadian women\u2019s show, See Hear Love. In her signature way, Melinda asks Ellen questions about why we\u2019re starting a podcast, what she\u2019s learned about being a different kind of leader, finding your peers, and the real-life tension between ministry and entrepreneurship.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Connect with Melinda:  Instagram&amp;nbsp; Learn more about See Hear Love: Website | Instagram | Facebook | Twitter &amp;nbsp; Loved this episode? Leave us a rating and review. ","author_name":"The Change Makers Podcast","author_url":"https:\/\/www.grafmartin.com\/podcast","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/12679541\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/content\/62494307"}