{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"The point of pointing, and using seabirds to track ocean health ","description":"You can learn a lot about ocean health from seabirds. For example, breeding failures among certain birds have been linked to the later collapse of some fisheries. Enriqueta Velarde of the Institute of Marine Sciences and Fisheries at the University of Veracruz in Mexico, joins host Sarah Crespi to talk about what these long-lived fliers can tell us about the ocean and its inhabitants.   Also this week, Sarah and Cathal O\u2019Madagain of the Ecole Normale Supe\u0301rieure in Paris discuss pointing\u2014a universal human gesture common to almost all children before age 1. They discuss why pointing matters, and how this simple gesture may underlie humans\u2019 amazing ability to collaborate and coordinate.     This week\u2019s episode was edited by Podigy.   Ads on the show: Kiwico.com   Listen to previous podcasts   About the Science Podcast   [Image: C. O'Madagain et al., Science Advances 2019; Music: Jeffrey Cook]    ++ Authors: Sarah Crespi;  ","author_name":"Science Magazine Podcast","author_url":"http:\/\/www.sciencemag.org","html":"