1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 About a year ago, after getting frustrated with my industry for the umpteenth time, I posted a rant on Facebook and used the hashtag LeadnotLEED. &amp;nbsp;Why? &amp;nbsp;Mainly because I wanted to tell professionals in the building industry to become leaders, not just follow the LEED program like lemmings. &amp;nbsp;The LEED program is good for many reasons, but as we've discussed in previous episodes, it doesn't take human health concerns into account enough to make a difference. &amp;nbsp;So today, Jay and I recorded our show prep conversation and it was sounding so good, I decided to roll with it. &amp;nbsp;Its not really edited at all...Just Jay and I speaking freely. &amp;nbsp;Enjoy! Non Toxic Environments Home Health &amp; Wellness https://www.ntelive.com <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/7804589/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/88AA3C/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/item/7804589