1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 Conversation with Kade Crockford the Director of the Technology for Liberty Program at the ACLU of Massachusetts. Kade ensures privacy and civil liberties law keeps pace with new technologies, with a focus on how systems of surveillance and control impact not just the society in general but their primary targets—people of color, Muslims, immigrants, and dissidents. &amp;nbsp; [EP-EN-41] Joi's Conversations Podcast http://joi.ito.com/ <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/5812418/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/88AA3C/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/content/17175556