1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 Jod Kaftan is the Group Design Director at Fjord in Los Angeles, overseeing the LA design practice and developing the team and quality of work. As a proponent of meaning in design, he provides valuable insights about how creating meaning can lead to customer loyalty. Check out the show notes for all references and links. ________ Love what you hear? Please subscribe, rate, and review us! Each review goes a long way! Special thanks to Monica Shriver of BraveMusician.com for this episode's theme music. Why Service Design Thinking http://whyservicedesignthinking.com <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/4756168/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/88AA3C/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/item/4756168