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Leading from a Healthy Place with Kobe Campbell
What does it really mean to be a healthy leader — not just an effective, successful, or high-performing one?   In this episode of the Moving Forward Podcast, Melissa Harrison sits down with licensed trauma therapist, bestselling author, and speaker Kobe Campbell for a conversation about the inner work of leadership — and how the stories, wounds, and emotional patterns we carry can shape the way we show up at work.   Kobe explains that healthy leadership begins with congruence: understanding what is happening inside of us while also being able to respond appropriately to what is happening around us. She shares how past experiences can influence the way we interpret conflict, feedback, authority, relationships, and even success — often without us realizing it.   She also explores what happens when identity becomes too closely tied to performance. Leaders can begin to see themselves primarily as sources of production — and eventually view the people around them the same way. As Kobe puts it, “Shame can motivate quickly, but love motivates sustainably.”   The conversation gets practical, too. Kobe explains what it means to be emotionally triggered at work, how to recognize when your reaction may be connected to a deeper story, and simple tools like pausing and regulating your breathing before responding. She also reminds us that self-awareness is not something we develop only in the heat of the moment: “The awareness starts before the moment you need the awareness.”   And for women of faith, Kobe offers an important reminder: emotional honesty is not a failure of faith. Drawing from Scripture, she shares how acknowledging our need, grief, and pain can actually open the door to deeper intimacy with God.   This conversation is ultimately about more than emotional health. It is about becoming the kind of leader who can carry responsibility, influence, and calling from a place of greater freedom, wholeness, and love.   In this episode, we get into:   Healthy leadership starts from within. Understanding what is happening inside of us helps us respond to what is actually happening around us.   Our stories follow us into the workplace. Past experiences can shape how we respond to pressure, conflict, feedback, and relationships — whether we recognize it or not.   Healthy leaders need people, too. We need trusted relationships where we can be known beyond our roles, receive support, and allow others to speak truth into our lives.   Kobe also shares a powerful leadership health question she often asks clients: identify one pattern you desperately want to change — and then ask what emotion you would have to face if you stopped engaging in that pattern.   She closes the conversation with a vulnerable challenge for every leader: ask someone you trust, “What is something in me that you hope God heals?”   4word is excited to welcome Kobe to BOLDLY this October in Dallas, where she will continue this important conversation about the importance of leaders being healthy.   Learn more about BOLDLY at 4wordwomen.org/boldly/.   About Kobe Campbell Kobe Campbell is a licensed trauma therapist, bestselling author, speaker, and mental health expert. She is the author of Why Am I Like This? How to Break Cycles, Heal From Trauma, and Restore Your Faith and is known for helping people understand how past experiences shape present patterns so they can pursue greater healing, emotional health, and wholeness.   Learn more about Kobe at kobecampbell.com. Follow Kobe on LinkedIn and Instagram.   About Melissa Harrison Melissa Harrison is a journalist, nonprofit leader, and President & CEO of 4word. She is passionate about helping women integrate faith, leadership, and purpose in the workplace. As host of the Moving Forward Podcast, Melissa brings a storyteller’s perspective to honest conversations about work, calling, growth, and the courage to keep moving forward.   Learn more about Melissa: melissaharrison.net Follow Melissa on LinkedIn and Instagram   About 4word 4word is a global community for Christian women in the workplace, helping women grow in their faith, thrive in their work, and become the women and leaders God created them to be.   Find out more about 4word: https://4wordwomen.org/ Follow 4word on LinkedIn and Instagram
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