1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 Service Scout (14 day free trial): https://getservicescout.com/demo.html This is the toughest year to close a sale in home services since 2008. Equipment costs more than ever, credit is tighter, and the customers calling for a replacement are the hardest ones to sell. The problem usually is not your leads. It is what happens when your technician walks in the door. In this episode of Service Business Mastery, Tersh Blissett and Josh Crouch sit down with Justin Riley, CEO and founder of UpFrog, for a straight read on the 2026 home services market and how the best companies are still closing jobs hand over fist. Justin breaks down why likability now beats price, why repair and maintenance calls are the easier win this year, how to lead with the right financing so a customer with tough credit still says yes, and the new tool he built, Service Scout, that briefs your tech on the home, the buyer, and the strategy in 90 seconds before every call. If close rate is where your money leaks this year, this one is the fix. This episode is brought to you in partnership with Upfrog, one of our show partners. Fitting, since today's guest is Upfrog's founder. Upfrog turns paid ad spend into booked, sold system replacements instead of wasted leads. Learn more at upfrog.com. CHAPTERS 0:00 – Raise Your Close Rate by Listening for 90 Seconds 3:01 – From HVAC Apprentice to Founding UpFrog 7:11 – The State of the 2026 Market: Toughest Since 2008 9:04 – Why Close Rate Is the Number One Problem This Year 11:45 – Why Customers Shop for Who They Like, Not Price 13:00 – Why Repair and Maintenance Calls Are the Easier Win 14:03 – The Average Ticket Meat Zone and the Credit Ceiling 17:01 – How Service Scout Was Born 19:12 – Inside a Service Scout Pre Appointment Intelligence Brief 23:30 – The Results: A 5 to 14% Close Rate Lift 24:12 – Leading With the Right Financing to Win Tough Credit 28:02 – Handling the Data Responsibly 31:27 – The Reporting Most Contractors Have Never Seen 33:11 – The Pricing and the ROI Math 36:53 – AI Should Make Your People Super, Not Replace Them 49:30 – The Number One Reason Close Rates Are Down WHAT YOU'LL LEARN - Why 2026 is the hardest year to close a home services sale since 2008, and where the money is actually leaking - Why likability now beats price, and why the replacement estimate is the hardest call to win - How a 90 second pre appointment brief can lift your close rate 5 to 14% - How to lead with the right financing so a customer with tough credit still says yes - What you can learn about a home before the visit, and how to use it without crossing a line - Why the real IP of a home service business is your people, not your AI stack THIS EPISODE IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY UPFROG System replacement leads from paid ads, nurtured and booked into sold jobs before your team arrives: upfrog.com MARKETSTORM An AI-powered advertising platform. Results vary by market, budget, and campaign configuration: https://marketstorm.ai/ CALLRAIL CallRail's Voice Assist is a 24/7 AI voice assistant that answers every call, handles customer questions, and books jobs directly onto your calendar, all without you ever having to step away from the current job. Try Voice Assist for free today at voiceassist.com BREEZY Capture 25-30% more clients with Breezy AI Agents. Use code 'SBM' to book a demo and get $500 on us: https://bit.ly/4ihjXkx PHONETAP Your calls hold the key to growing your business. PhoneTAP gives you instant AI analysis, real customer lifetime value, and tools to coach your team. Learn more: phonetap.ai/demo COMPANYCAM Capture work, track job progress, and stay connected from the field to the office with photo documentation and AI tools that keep work moving. 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