1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 What if your “people problem” is actually a leadership problem in disguise? In this episode of the WholeCEO Podcast, Lisa G. sits down with Stacey Kauffman, founder of SK Collective, to unpack why leaders so often misdiagnose the real issues holding their teams back. Stacey reveals her 4S framework—Surface, Source, System, and Shift—and explains how clarity, role alignment, structure, and ownership can transform performance. They also explore why CEOs get trapped in operational chaos, how “average performers” quietly drain high-performing teams, and how leaders can reclaim capacity for strategic thinking. If your team feels stuck, don’t hire, fire, or fix yet—find the real root cause. Listen now, then audit what’s really holding your business back. WholeCEO With Lisa G Podcast https://lisagfitness.com <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/42459460/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/88AA3C/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/content/205164300