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  <title>EP297 - How to Use Vendor MDF for MSPs so Everyone Wins with Gemma Telford and Ian Luckett</title>
  <description> In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, I sit down with Gemma Telford from the Archer Agency to unpack one of the most underused resources available to growing MSPs, vendor Marketing Development Funds, or MDF. With two decades of experience across tech marketing, including roles at Ingram Micro, Sage and Palo Alto Networks, Gemma Telford brings a rare view from both sides of the channel, having worked with vendors,&amp;amp;nbsp;distributors&amp;amp;nbsp;and partners&amp;amp;nbsp;alike.&amp;amp;nbsp;   &amp;amp;nbsp;   We open with a wider discussion on why so many MSP owners struggle to embrace marketing in the first place. Many of us built our businesses on technical strength rather than promotional confidence, and Gemma and I agree that the answer often lies in reframing marketing as simply clear messaging about how you help people, rather than something big or intimidating. Bringing in dedicated marketing support, rather than expecting founders or inexperienced hires to carry the whole function, is one of the most reliable paths to sustainable growth.&amp;amp;nbsp;   &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;   From there, we move into the heart of the episode, MDF itself. Gemma Telford explains that marketing development funds sit within a vendor's budget specifically to help partners sell more of their products and services. Despite the funds being widely available, research referenced in the episode suggests that around sixty percent of MDF goes unused every quarter. The reasons are practical rather than mysterious. Vendors often&amp;amp;nbsp;allocate&amp;amp;nbsp;funding to whoever asks loudest, application processes can be convoluted, and many MSPs simply are not aware the money exists or how to access it.&amp;amp;nbsp;   &amp;amp;nbsp;   A significant part of our conversation focuses on the mismatch between vendor expectations and MSP realities. Vendors&amp;amp;nbsp;frequently&amp;amp;nbsp;want to see leads or return on investment within a single quarter, which rarely reflects how MSP sales cycles&amp;amp;nbsp;actually work. Gemma Telford shares an encouraging example of an ERP vendor taking a&amp;amp;nbsp;longer-term&amp;amp;nbsp;view, building multiyear plans with&amp;amp;nbsp;partners&amp;amp;nbsp;and trusting that results will follow, even if not&amp;amp;nbsp;immediately. This kind of collaborative thinking, she suggests, is exactly what more vendors need to adopt.&amp;amp;nbsp;   &amp;amp;nbsp;   Practical advice runs throughout the episode. Rather than approaching every vendor at once, Gemma recommends we choose one vendor to start with, ideally one connected to a business goal such as growth in a particular sector or vertical. From there, building a genuine plan, complete with revenue targets and a proposed timeline, gives vendors something concrete to support rather than a vague request for cash. Case studies and proof points are also flagged as powerful tools, since vendors are always seeking evidence that their products deliver&amp;amp;nbsp;real results&amp;amp;nbsp;for real&amp;amp;nbsp;customers.&amp;amp;nbsp;   &amp;amp;nbsp;   We also touch on the importance of relationships within the channel. Strong connections with account managers and channel teams can open doors that generic outreach never will, and we both agree that treating vendor partnerships as a genuine collaboration, rather than a transactional exchange, tends to produce the best long-term outcomes.&amp;amp;nbsp;   &amp;amp;nbsp;   Towards the end of the episode,&amp;amp;nbsp;Gemma Telford&amp;amp;nbsp;sets out three changes that would make MDF programmes work better for everyone. Vendors moving away from rigid quarterly ROI expectations, supporting partners to build their own plans rather than being overly prescriptive, and simplifying the application process so partners are not discouraged before they even begin. For any MSP wondering where to start, my advice is refreshingly simple, get a plan in place, understand your specialisms and messaging, and proactively approach your vendors rather than waiting to be noticed.&amp;amp;nbsp;   &amp;amp;nbsp;   This episode is a valuable listen for any MSP owner who has heard of MDF but never quite understood how to access it, or for those keen to strengthen their vendor relationships and unlock funding that is often sitting&amp;amp;nbsp;untouched.&amp;amp;nbsp;   &amp;amp;nbsp;   You can connect with Gemma Telford on&amp;amp;nbsp;LinkedIn&amp;amp;nbsp;or find out more about her work at the&amp;amp;nbsp;Archer Agency.&amp;amp;nbsp;   &amp;amp;nbsp;Make sure to check out our&amp;amp;nbsp;Ultimate MSP Growth Guide,&amp;amp;nbsp;a free guide that walks you through a proven process to take your MSP from stuck to scalable, without working even more hours.&amp;amp;nbsp;It’s&amp;amp;nbsp;44 pages rammed with advice,&amp;amp;nbsp;insights&amp;amp;nbsp;and inspiration to help you decide what support is available to you now if you want to grow and scale your business. Click&amp;amp;nbsp;HERE&amp;amp;nbsp;to get your copy.&amp;amp;nbsp;    &amp;amp;nbsp;   Connect on LinkedIn&amp;amp;nbsp;HERE&amp;amp;nbsp;with Ian&amp;amp;nbsp;and also&amp;amp;nbsp;with Stuart by clicking this&amp;amp;nbsp;LINK&amp;amp;nbsp;    &amp;amp;nbsp;   And when&amp;amp;nbsp;you’re&amp;amp;nbsp;ready to take the next step in growing your MSP,&amp;amp;nbsp;come and take&amp;amp;nbsp;the&amp;amp;nbsp;Scale with Confidence MSP Mastery Quiz.&amp;amp;nbsp;In just three minutes,&amp;amp;nbsp;you’ll&amp;amp;nbsp;get a 360-degree scan of your MSP and&amp;amp;nbsp;identify&amp;amp;nbsp;the one or two tactics that could help you find more time, engage &amp;amp;amp; align your&amp;amp;nbsp;people&amp;amp;nbsp;and generate more leads.&amp;amp;nbsp;    &amp;amp;nbsp;   If&amp;amp;nbsp;you’re&amp;amp;nbsp;serious about growth and want to explore what this could look like for your MSP, you can book a Right Fit Clarity Call with us&amp;amp;nbsp;HERE.&amp;amp;nbsp;   OR&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;   To join our amazing Facebook Group of over 400 MSPs where we are helping you Scale Up with Confidence, then click&amp;amp;nbsp;HERE&amp;amp;nbsp;   Until next time, look after yourself and&amp;amp;nbsp;I’ll&amp;amp;nbsp;catch up with you soon!  </description>
  <author_name>IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett</author_name>
  <author_url>https://innovatetosuccess.com</author_url>
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