1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 In&amp;nbsp;this episode, Joe&amp;nbsp;chats with Dr. Holly Smith, Executive Director and Vice President of Apprenticeship Degree Design&amp;nbsp;at the National Center for the Apprenticeship Degree, and Matthew McKenney, President and CEO of&amp;nbsp;JobForward.&amp;nbsp;Together, they discuss&amp;nbsp;the partnership between NCAD and&amp;nbsp;JobForward, why the partnership makes sense and why now is the right time for it, reflections from&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;International&amp;nbsp;Convening for the&amp;nbsp;Apprenticeship&amp;nbsp;Degree (ICAD) 2025 and what to look forward to at ICAD 2026, how listeners can work with NCAD and&amp;nbsp;JobForward&amp;nbsp;in the future, and much more. Read Inside Higher Ed’s “The Apprenticeship Wish List” at&amp;nbsp;https://www.insidehighered.com/news/tech-innovation/alternative-credentials/2026/06/29/apprenticeship-wish-list.&amp;nbsp; Music by Evgeny&amp;nbsp;Bardyuzha from Pixabay.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Apprenticeship 2.0 https://reach.edu/podcast <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/42299150/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/88AA3C/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/content/204728420