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  <title>Learning From Grief - David Ferrugio On Memory, Meaning, And Moving Forward</title>
  <description> For many, September 11th is a shared, historical tragedy. But for today's guest, it is a personal anniversary - the day his father died.   David Ferrugio was twelve years old when his dad was killed in the World Trade Center. Twenty-five years later, his grief continues to unfold - from recently sitting with his father's forensic file at the 9/11 Memorial to hosting his own podcast,&amp;amp;nbsp;DEAD Talks, where he invites people into honest conversations about death, grief, and what it means to keep living.&amp;amp;nbsp;   In this conversation, David reflects on carrying&amp;amp;nbsp;his private grief through such a public loss. We talk about what it was&amp;amp;nbsp;like to&amp;amp;nbsp;be so young when his dad died, the&amp;amp;nbsp;memories&amp;amp;nbsp;he's&amp;amp;nbsp;held onto, and the new stories&amp;amp;nbsp;he's&amp;amp;nbsp;discovered through&amp;amp;nbsp;other people who also knew his father.&amp;amp;nbsp;   David&amp;amp;nbsp;talks about&amp;amp;nbsp;the ways&amp;amp;nbsp;grief found expression before he had words for it&amp;amp;nbsp;-&amp;amp;nbsp;from&amp;amp;nbsp;watching footage of the attacks&amp;amp;nbsp;over and over, to blasting Linkin Park while wearing himself out with a punching bag, to eventually finding his voice through podcasting and writing.&amp;amp;nbsp;   We discuss:  What he remembers about 9/11 and getting the news his father died&amp;amp;nbsp; Sitting with his father's forensic file twenty-five years later  &amp;amp;nbsp; Carrying personal grief through a public tragedy How memory, trauma, and grief intersect Finding connection through stories about the person who died  &amp;amp;nbsp; Why grief doesn't always begin with words&amp;amp;nbsp; The role of movement, music, humor, and curiosity in living with grief&amp;amp;nbsp; What talking with hundreds of people about grief has taught David about compassion, uncertainty, and hope  &amp;amp;nbsp;    Learn more about&amp;amp;nbsp;David, his podcast&amp;amp;nbsp;DEAD Talks, and his upcoming book,&amp;amp;nbsp;You're Not Dead Yet: How Grief and Loss Can Teach You to Live.&amp;amp;nbsp;   Note: This episode&amp;amp;nbsp;contains&amp;amp;nbsp;some salty language. Listen with care.&amp;amp;nbsp;  </description>
  <author_name>Grief Out Loud</author_name>
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