1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 Damon turns the tables and interviews John. The wide ranging conversations hits on everything from containers, to Docker, to microservices, to immutable infrastructure, to unikernals, and the impact of it all.&amp;nbsp; Show notes at http://devopscafe.org DevOps Cafe Podcast http://devopscafe.org <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/4176150/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/88AA3C/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/item/4176150