1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 In This Episode Many businesses believe that more data leads to more sales. Hamid Ghanadan argues that data alone often creates more skepticism than confidence. In this episode, Adi Klevit interviews Hamid Ghanadan, Founder and CEO of The Linus Group, about the science behind persuasion, communication, and marketing. Drawing from his unique background as a biochemist and marketer, Hamid explains why many organizations struggle to communicate effectively with highly analytical audiences and how a systems-based approach to storytelling can dramatically improve results. Adi and Hamid explore one of the biggest misconceptions in sales and marketing: the belief that technical buyers want more facts and more data. While data remains essential, Hamid explains that leading with information often triggers skepticism rather than engagement. Instead, successful communicators first create curiosity, helping prospects recognize a problem or opportunity before presenting supporting evidence. The conversation also dives into the role of storytelling as a repeatable system rather than a creative talent reserved for a select few. Hamid shares how the Hero’s Journey framework can be adapted for business communication, helping marketers, sales professionals, and business leaders guide audiences through a process that leads naturally to action. Perhaps the biggest takeaway is that persuasion is not about convincing people to do something. It is about helping them arrive at their own conclusions through a structured process that combines curiosity, narrative, and evidence. &amp;nbsp; Systems Simplified http://systemssimplifiedpodcast.com/ <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/41690230/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/88AA3C/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/item/41690230