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  <title>It's Not That We Don't Value Your Experience, We Just Don't Want to Pay for It</title>
  <description> All links and images can be found on  CISO Series  This week's episode is hosted by David Spark, producer of CISO Series and Andy Ellis, principal of Duha. Joining is Megan Samford, vp product and supply chain security, Schneider Electric.  In this episode:  Two modes of CISO The vendor has the keys The economic argument for secure code  Burning through the talent   A huge thanks to our sponsor, Native Security    Native makes secure-by-design inherent to how the cloud operates. It's the control plane for built-in cloud security, unifying and governing native controls, so security intent is defined once and applied consistently across providers. Learn more at  native.security. </description>
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