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  <title>137: Jamie Winship — How Great Leaders Handle Fear, Conflict, and Difficult Conversations</title>
  <description>➡️ Get my free weekly newsletter (The Intentional Letter): https://courses.calwalters.me/signup Email cal@calwalters.me if you're interested in learning more about the Intentional Leader Lab.&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp; Learn more about Jamie Winship and his work:&amp;amp;nbsp;https://www.identityexchange.com/ Get Jamie's new book, The War of Worldviews: https://www.identityexchange.com/books Jamie Winship returns to the Intentional Leader Podcast for a deep and honest conversation about fear, identity, conflict, truth-telling, and what it means to lead from love instead of self-protection. Jamie is a former CIA officer, conflict mediator, speaker, and author of Living Fearless and The War of Worldviews. In this conversation, Jamie shares vulnerably about his own fear of being a disappointment, how leaders often use self-protection and self-promotion to cover insecurity, and why truth-telling is one of the most powerful tools for resolving conflict. We also explore how leaders can help people in conflict, why anger is often connected to fear, and why leaders must model the freedom they want to create in others. Jamie is a Christian, and this conversation includes discussion of faith, prayer, Jesus, and Scripture. Whether or not you come from that faith background, this episode offers powerful insight into what it means to be human, to face fear honestly, and to lead with courage, love, and truth. In this episode, we discuss:  Why fear is valuable but should not make decisions for us How leaders self-protect and self-promote when they feel afraid Why conflict is usually rooted in fear How to tell the truth without weaponizing vulnerability Why leaders must do their own inner work first How to help people in conflict reconnect as human beings Why love, not fear, is the better leadership motive How to stay grounded in high-stress situations  00:00 Introduction 01:37 Jamie’s core fear: being a disappointment 04:47 How fear shows up in leadership 05:13 The decision to take his family to Iraq 07:33 When leadership decisions go wrong 08:29 Why truth-telling is the path through fear 10:16 Only truth can remove a lie 12:28 What Jamie says to himself when fear rises 12:50 Fear makes simple things complicated 15:13 Tracing fear back to an old wound 17:31 Asking God where He was in the painful moment 19:42 What happens when leaders don’t process fear 20:17 Self-protection and self-promotion 21:31 Don’t get your identity from the room 22:14 Can leaders be motivated by love instead of fear? 22:38 Every decision comes from fear or love 25:59 Jamie’s definition of love 26:05 Serve and protect vs. enforce and control 30:32 How leaders should handle conflict on their team 32:16 Fear is what produces conflict 34:36 Underneath anger is usually fear 36:53 How identity changes conflict resolution 39:23 “I’m not qualified to do that” 40:12 Leaders must model the freedom they want to create 42:36 How two people in conflict can tell the truth 45:02 A CEO chooses humanity over HR process 47:13 Is truth-telling too vulnerable in conflict? 47:46 Truth-telling vs. vulnerability 49:03 A real-world conflict resolution example 53:25 Why present pain usually has a past root 56:25 What to do if you can’t remember where the fear started 57:21 Habits for staying calm under pressure 57:49 Keep your brain in your own car 01:00:41 How the future helps us deal with fear 01:01:07 Getting the enemy out from behind you 01:03:34 Cal’s biggest takeaways </description>
  <author_name>Intentional Leader with Cal Walters</author_name>
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