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  <title>How to Get Podcast Leads Without Paid Ads With Tom Schwab of Interview Valet</title>
  <description>S6:E42 The market is louder than ever, yet trust feels like a rare commodity. Many founders are visible but not chosen. They generate impressions, traffic, and activity, yet still lack meaningful conversations with ideal buyers. If people don’t trust you, they won’t engage. If they don’t remember you, they won’t refer you. If your growth depends only on ads, it remains fragile. Tom Schwab joins Dr. LL to discuss how podcast guesting can create a more durable path to authority, relationships, and revenue. 👤 Guest Tom Schwab, Interview Valet Leader in podcast interview marketing and relationship-based lead generation ⚠️ Core Problems   Transactional outreach fatigue  Overreliance on paid traffic  Weak authority positioning No system for converting credibility into pipeline  🥡 Practical Takeaways  Go where trust already exists  Share expertise in long-form conversations  Build follow-up systems after appearances  Measure relationships, not just reach  ⏱️ Timestamps 0:00 The trust deficit in marketing 7:18 Why podcasts work differently 15:42 Authority through conversation 26:10 Systems that convert interviews 36:40 What to build next 🔖 Who This Episode Is For B2B founders, advisors, agencies, consultants, executives Signal clarity grows when trust precedes promotion. Presented by STEERus. Subscribe, share, and follow for more grounded conversations. ✅ Subscribe for weekly conversations on entrepreneurship&amp;amp;nbsp; 🔁 Share this episode with someone who needs to be heard Follow STEERus on social media: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DrLLSmallBusiness Instagram: https://instagram.com/steerus LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/steerus Twitter: https://x.com/steerus_io &amp;amp;nbsp; #podcasting #podcast #marketing #entrepreneur #smallbusiness </description>
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  <author_url>https://steerus.io/</author_url>
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