1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 How do you move elephants — without breaking the system or the people inside it? “AI didn’t create accessibility risk — it poured gasoline on velocity. And velocity exposes broken systems.” That line stopped us in my tracks. In our latest Project Inclusion conversation, we sat down with Cat Noone, CEO of Stark, to talk about what it really takes to move elephants — large organizations navigating accessibility, governance, and product velocity. We explored: Why companies don’t ignore accessibility because they don’t care The “latent innovation phase” most organizations get stuck in Why moral arguments alone don’t drive change How accessibility becomes a growth driver — not a compliance afterthought What stood out most: Accessibility isn’t a tooling problem. It’s an infrastructure problem. It’s a systems design problem. And when AI accelerates velocity, weak systems break first. If you lead product, design, engineering, or strategy — this one’s worth your time. #Accessibility #SystemsThinking #AI #Leadership #InclusiveDesign #ProductStrategy &amp;nbsp; Project Inclusion: The Podcast https://projectinclusion.us <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/40258250/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/88AA3C/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/content/199134470