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  <title>Jolly Pradhan Interview - Stop Building the Wrong Thing: Real B2B Innovation Explained</title>
  <description>🎁 GET MY FREE PDF SUMMARY OF THIS EPISODE BELOW 🎁  https://www.joshuasutherland.com/lp/free-pdf-notes-podcast-2026-01-15-jolly-pradhan-interview/ &amp;amp;nbsp; Use the link above to get free instant access to my PDF notes. &amp;amp;nbsp; ======================  📡 Tech Planning Copilot 📡 - https://techplanningcopilot.com/   ☎️ COACHING, CONSULTING &amp;amp;amp; TRAINING ☎️ - Book a Call: https://www.joshuasutherland.com/book-a-call/ - https://InternationalSystemsGroup.com/ &amp;amp;nbsp; ✉️ NEWSLETTER ✉️ - https://www.joshuasutherland.com/newsletter/ &amp;amp;nbsp; 🖐️ CONNECT WITH ME 🖐️ - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuasutherland - https://www.JoshuaSutherland.com/ - https://www.TheSystemsEngineeringPodcast.com/ &amp;amp;nbsp; COURSES 🎬️ Scenarios and Making Future Proof Plans:  https://www.udemy.com/course/making-future-proof-plans/?referralCode=B24BABD3F3A3EB986E8A 🎬️ Object Process Methodology (OPM) for MBSE: https://www.udemy.com/course/opm-for-mbse/?couponCode=OF83024F &amp;amp;nbsp; ====================== &amp;amp;nbsp; 🔗 EPISODE LINKS 🔗 - Jolly Pradhan: -- https://www.endtoendinnovation.co/ -- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jollypradhan/ &amp;amp;nbsp; ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS ⏱️ 00:00:00 Introduction — B2B innovation, building the right thing, notes + Tech Planning Copilot 00:01:32 Jolly Pradhan and End-to-End Innovation Consulting from Idea to Launch 00:03:01 Validating Customer Needs — Avoiding Assumptions &amp;amp;amp; Interviewing Properly 00:06:15 “Build the Right Thing” vs “Build It Right” 00:06:49 Systems Thinking in Practice — Semiconductor Story &amp;amp;amp; Cross-Discipline Integration 00:10:08 De-Risking Early — Stakeholders, Manufacturing Lessons &amp;amp;amp; Avoiding Rework 00:12:49 Prioritisation — Avoiding Paralysis &amp;amp;amp; Focusing on Core Needs 00:15:10 B2B Reality — Integration Over ROI &amp;amp;amp; The Hiring AI Case Study 00:21:24 AI Hype vs Reality — Asking Better Questions &amp;amp;amp; Scaling Responsibly 00:25:49 Scaling &amp;amp;amp; Architecture — Storage, Costs, Requirements Before Build 00:30:12 Lean Startup vs Long-Term Thinking — MVPs, Architecture &amp;amp;amp; Duct-Tape Software 00:38:25 MIT SDM Journey — Career Pivot &amp;amp;amp; Continuous Learning 00:47:14 Innovation Inside Large Firms — Buy-In, Process Mapping &amp;amp;amp; Structured Problem Solving 00:57:55 Final Takeaways — End-to-End Thinking, Assumptions &amp;amp;amp; AI as a Tool 01:06:05 Outro — Links, Notes &amp;amp;amp; Connect with Jolly &amp;amp;nbsp; </description>
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