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  <title>Sleep is a Skill with Mollie Eastman</title>
  <description>You don’t rise to your potential—you recover to it. Sleep isn’t a luxury. It’s a skill. On this episode of WINNERS FIND A WAY, Trent M. Clark sits down with Mollie Eastman, founder of Sleep Is a Skill and host of one of the top sleep podcasts in the world, to tackle one of the most overlooked performance levers in leadership, entrepreneurship, and elite athletics: sleep and recovery. From HRV and wearables to circadian rhythm, wake-ups at 3am, sleep anxiety, and data overload, this is a masterclass in how top performers actually win—by mastering the downshift. This conversation isn’t theory. It’s practical, real-world, and immediately actionable. About the Guest Mollie Eastman is a leading voice in sleep optimization, founder of SleepIsASkill.com, and creator of the Sleep Obsessions newsletter. She works with entrepreneurs, Special Forces operators, high-stakes performers, and professional athletes to transform sleep from a liability into a competitive advantage. Her work bridges cutting-edge science with practical implementation—without fragility, gimmicks, or excuses. Key Topics Covered  Why sleep is a trainable skill, not a genetic sentence The difference between stress vs. distress in performance HRV, wearables, and when data helps—or hurts The real reasons people wake up at 3–4am Circadian rhythm &amp;amp;gt; night routines alone Why elite performers must master day mode vs. night mode How leaders unknowingly model poor recovery for their teams  Resources Mentioned  Sleep Is a Skill – https://sleepisaskill.com Sleep Obsessions Newsletter Books:  The Power of the Downstate Mind After Midnight The Upside of Stress   Tools &amp;amp;amp; Concepts:  HRV Tracking Oura Ring / WHOOP Circadian Rhythm Intermittent Fasting CBT-I &amp;amp;amp; ACT-I approaches to insomnia    🎧 Watch &amp;amp;amp; Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@leadershipity 🎙️ Listen to the full episode here: https://podcast.winnersfindaway.us/podcast For information and a discount to Mollie’s new course SLEEP IS A SKILL, please email&amp;amp;nbsp;team@sleepisaskill.com&amp;amp;nbsp;and mention the WINNERS FIND A WAY podcast or WFAW! &amp;amp;nbsp; 📩 Want help optimizing your performance? Book a 15-minute call with COACH TRENT and get on the schedule. &amp;amp;nbsp; &amp;amp;nbsp; </description>
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