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  <title>459 From Wastewater to Resource: Water Reuse with Dr. Veronika Zhiteneva</title>
  <description> Industrial water professionals are increasingly pulled into conversations about scarcity, resilience, and “where the next gallon comes from.” &amp;amp;nbsp;Dr. Veronika Zhiteneva, CEO and Co-founder of&amp;amp;nbsp;Waterloop Solutions&amp;amp;nbsp;frames water reuse as an implementation challenge more than a technology gap—and explains where the practical starting points are when the scope feels overwhelming.&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;   Moving reuse forward when the technology already exists&amp;amp;nbsp; Waterloop&amp;amp;nbsp;Solutions was founded to accelerate implementation: clarifying&amp;amp;nbsp;end-use quality,&amp;amp;nbsp;identifying&amp;amp;nbsp;post-treatment needs&amp;amp;nbsp;on the back end of existing plants, and building&amp;amp;nbsp;risk management plans&amp;amp;nbsp;that fit&amp;amp;nbsp;real&amp;amp;nbsp;operational and regulatory expectations. The conversation stays grounded in what slows projects down (time, permitting, funding, and public acceptance) and where progress can be made without reinventing the toolbox.&amp;amp;nbsp;  Centralized vs. decentralized: why “less regulated” can move faster&amp;amp;nbsp; Europe’s agricultural reuse regulation&amp;amp;nbsp;(noted as coming into effect in&amp;amp;nbsp;June 2023) created shared&amp;amp;nbsp;minimum&amp;amp;nbsp;requirements, but also uncertainty around permitting and responsibility at the local level. In contrast, decentralized reuse is described as an “early adopter” space—often driven by innovative building projects (gray water separation, rooftop rain capture) and, in some cases, easier implementation from scratch than retrofits.&amp;amp;nbsp;  What matters to industrial listeners: partnerships, autonomy, and distance&amp;amp;nbsp; For industrial teams,&amp;amp;nbsp;Dr.&amp;amp;nbsp;Veronika&amp;amp;nbsp;points out&amp;amp;nbsp;opportunities for&amp;amp;nbsp;synergistic partnerships&amp;amp;nbsp;with municipalities and agriculture—balanced against the realities of infrastructure distance and cost. She also makes the case for industrial autonomy: decoupling from conventional sources through internal reuse to protect future production when municipal needs take precedence.&amp;amp;nbsp;  Communication and the “toilet to tap” problem&amp;amp;nbsp; Public&amp;amp;nbsp;perception&amp;amp;nbsp;remains&amp;amp;nbsp;a stubborn barrier.&amp;amp;nbsp;Dr.&amp;amp;nbsp;Veronika calls out the long-lasting impact of “toilet to tap” framing and why first impressions can derail technically sound reuse projects.&amp;amp;nbsp; Listen to the full conversation above. Explore related episodes below. Stay engaged, keep learning, and continue scaling up your knowledge!&amp;amp;nbsp; &amp;amp;nbsp; Timestamps&amp;amp;nbsp; 03:58&amp;amp;nbsp;- Trace Blackmore shares&amp;amp;nbsp;how “Pinks and Blues” questions get chosen—and where listeners can&amp;amp;nbsp;submit&amp;amp;nbsp;them&amp;amp;nbsp; 05:05&amp;amp;nbsp;-&amp;amp;nbsp;Upcoming Events for Water Treatment Professionals&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp; 07:42 – Words of Water with James McDonald&amp;amp;nbsp; 11:47 – Meet&amp;amp;nbsp;Dr. Veronika&amp;amp;nbsp;Zhiteneva&amp;amp;nbsp;and why Trace invited her from LinkedIn insights&amp;amp;nbsp; 12:20&amp;amp;nbsp;— Veronika’s path: UMD → Colorado School of Mines → PhD at Technical University of Munich 15:40&amp;amp;nbsp;— Why&amp;amp;nbsp;Waterloop&amp;amp;nbsp;Solutions started: progress is slow, but implementation support is missing&amp;amp;nbsp; 19:40&amp;amp;nbsp;— Decentralized reuse: why interest is rising, and why it can be easier to implement in buildings&amp;amp;nbsp; 20:20&amp;amp;nbsp;— EU agricultural reuse regulation (June 2023): minimum quality, crop types, and risk plan uncertainty&amp;amp;nbsp; 23:40&amp;amp;nbsp;— Unique barriers by sector: municipal timelines, industrial ROI, and the difficulty of reaching farmers&amp;amp;nbsp; 33:20&amp;amp;nbsp;— Lowest-hanging fruit: municipal reuse for street cleaning and parks; industrial autonomy via internal reuse&amp;amp;nbsp; 45:00&amp;amp;nbsp;— Women and young professionals: visibility, role models, and why the sector’s willingness to help matters&amp;amp;nbsp; 47:20&amp;amp;nbsp;— Where to learn more: US EPA resources, EU work underway, and Australia as a reuse leader&amp;amp;nbsp; &amp;amp;nbsp; Quotes “It's okay to ask questions.”&amp;amp;nbsp; “But&amp;amp;nbsp;actually,&amp;amp;nbsp;all the technology needed for it already exists.”&amp;amp;nbsp; “What I think is&amp;amp;nbsp;awesome&amp;amp;nbsp;in the US, for example, that you guys are really pursuing this direct potable reuse now.”&amp;amp;nbsp; “I think these are all valid options to have kind of in the water management portfolio on a local level and also on a regional level.”&amp;amp;nbsp; &amp;amp;nbsp; Connect with Dr. Veronika Zhiteneva  Email:&amp;amp;nbsp;vzhiteneva@gowaterloop.com&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp; Website:&amp;amp;nbsp;Home – Waterloop Solutions&amp;amp;nbsp; LinkedIn:&amp;amp;nbsp;https://www.linkedin.com/in/vzhiteneva/&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp; Waterloop Solutions: Overview | LinkedIn&amp;amp;nbsp;  &amp;amp;nbsp; Guest Resources Mentioned&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp; Brave New World&amp;amp;nbsp;by Aldous Huxley (Paperback)&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp; &amp;amp;nbsp; European Commission's&amp;amp;nbsp;Water reuse: New EU rules to improve access to safe irrigation&amp;amp;nbsp; Intermezzo Paperback –&amp;amp;nbsp;by Sally Rooney (Author)&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp; Radical Candor: Fully Revised &amp;amp;amp; Updated Edition: Be a Kick-Ass Boss Without&amp;amp;nbsp;Losing Your Humanity&amp;amp;nbsp;by Kim Scott&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp; US EPA&amp;amp;nbsp;State Water Reuse Resources&amp;amp;nbsp; US EPA&amp;amp;nbsp;Water Reuse Information Library&amp;amp;nbsp; US EPA's&amp;amp;nbsp;“A Framework for Permitting Innovation in the Wastewater Sector Report”&amp;amp;nbsp; US Department of Energy’s&amp;amp;nbsp;About the BuildingsNEXT Student Design Competition&amp;amp;nbsp; The&amp;amp;nbsp;Corporate Sustainability Reporting Directive&amp;amp;nbsp;(CSRD)&amp;amp;nbsp; &amp;amp;nbsp; Water Reuse Europe Policy and Regulations&amp;amp;nbsp; &amp;amp;nbsp; Scaling UP! H2O Resources Mentioned&amp;amp;nbsp; AWT&amp;amp;nbsp;(Association of Water Technologies)&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp; AWT Technical Training Seminars&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp; Scaling UP! H2O Academy&amp;amp;nbsp;video courses&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp; Submit a Show Idea&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp; The Rising Tide Mastermind&amp;amp;nbsp; &amp;amp;nbsp; Words of Water with James McDonald&amp;amp;nbsp; Today's definition is a device for removing condensate from a steam line without allowing the steam to escape.&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;Can you guess the word or phrase?&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp; &amp;amp;nbsp; 2026&amp;amp;nbsp;Events for Water Professionals&amp;amp;nbsp; Check&amp;amp;nbsp;out our Scaling UP! H2O Events Calendar where&amp;amp;nbsp;we’ve&amp;amp;nbsp;listed every event Water Treaters should be aware of by clicking&amp;amp;nbsp;HERE.&amp;amp;nbsp; &amp;amp;nbsp;     &amp;amp;nbsp; </description>
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