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  <title>225. Lisa Smartt – Literary Specialist / Author / Researcher of the Unravelling - Being of Service</title>
  <description>Welcome back to Behind Greatness. We speak with Lisa who joins us from her new abode in Emerald Isle. Lisa is the author of&amp;amp;nbsp;Words at the Threshold. Her book is a fascinating compendium of 7 years’ research on (and collection of) people’s last words. We are charmed by Lisa’s casual and playful demeanour from the get-go. We learn about her research, her own deeply personal experiences with dying loved ones and the emotional wisdom of a particular fireman who helped save a moment. Lisa shared with us her ideas about the consensuality of language, humour in dying, the openness and curiosity of our former childhoods that help to book-end – and Herb. The conversation reaches new depths, touching upon Lisa’s personal experience with a certain kind of evil that we started to cover in the previous episode with Alex … and what Lisa has found with the unravelling of speech. &amp;amp;nbsp; My modality is broken.&amp;amp;nbsp;Wow. &amp;amp;nbsp; Episodes mentioned: Dr. Bruce Greysen (ep 69) re NDE research, Rey Hernandez (ep 153, 154)&amp;amp;nbsp;re modalities, Alex Gomez-Marin (ep 224), Emmeline Villar (ep 173). &amp;amp;nbsp; Lisa,  ·&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;Website:&amp;amp;nbsp;https://www.finalwordsproject.org/  ·&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;Book:&amp;amp;nbsp;Words at the Threshold: What We Say as We're Nearing Death&amp;amp;nbsp;-&amp;amp;nbsp;https://www.amazon.com/Words-Threshold-What-Nearing-Death/dp/1608684601/ref=sr_1_1?crid=NE8R7WK669EI&amp;amp;amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.SxBuIw0YM55aV-Q6BRZ-wj2FO3qssGQ1A1Yvl6UOatrvjCLHQpYkH7DfMOBs5dPE-84vsFaW-S_NcOirrDCH-FgKwjipxojuqQqCy5nRMHs0IZ4IxCFKPqLkJXA4i_iJwpANASfHo13qLJajDT6rnXGFrEY0ROAkDxQNKpFOFn9AaAi9uIIZpkVesPn7D2qT.H1Js2OEmpHy7WdRBXncQaVY2u5vu9a8nDIagB6C4qWE&amp;amp;amp;dib_tag=se&amp;amp;amp;keywords=lisa+smartt&amp;amp;amp;qid=1765497528&amp;amp;amp;sprefix=lisa+smart%2Caps%2C172&amp;amp;amp;sr=8-1 &amp;amp;nbsp; Book mentioned: ·&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;Final Gifts: Understanding and Helping the Dying - Callaghan, Maggie; Kelley, Patricia:&amp;amp;nbsp;https://www.amazon.com/Final-Gifts-Understanding-Special-Awareness-ebook/dp/B005UDIC3E/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3TS5F8EG1IJ7E&amp;amp;amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.dDmAgW1pouc6U81D-LheBQ.h_lFExdSCcnEuB631eybIfS44fI2ZHc8l8LOzLUwgHU&amp;amp;amp;dib_tag=se&amp;amp;amp;keywords=Final+Gifts%3A+Understanding+and+Helping+the+Dying+-+Callaghan%2C+Maggie%3B+Kelley%2C+Patricia&amp;amp;amp;nsdOptOutParam=true&amp;amp;amp;qid=1765497462&amp;amp;amp;sprefix=final+gifts+understanding+and+helping+the+dying+-+callaghan%2C+maggie+kelley%2C+patricia%2Caps%2C109&amp;amp;amp;sr=8-1 To give to the Behind Greatness podcast, please visit here:&amp;amp;nbsp;https://behindgreatness.org. As a charity, tax receipts are issued to donors </description>
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