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  <title>251: Holy Indifference with Sara Billups</title>
  <description>Today on the podcast, Merideth chats with Seattle-based writer Sara Billups, who explores faith and culture in her new book,  Nervous Systems. They discuss the connection between anxiety and creative drive, and Sara shares a powerful spiritual practice called &amp;quot;holy indifference,&amp;quot; which can free artists from the tyranny of outcome. They chat about sharing work when you're an Enneagram 4 and also offer practical steps for setting boundaries with social media to protect your most vulnerable work. Get Nervous Systems Read more about Sara Download the Curtain Call Questions&amp;amp;nbsp; Learn more about the Creative Leap Mastermind  Grab your free discovery call with Merideth Join the next Artist's Way Creative Cluster Support the podcast by becoming a Joyster on Patreon </description>
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