1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 In this episode, Tomasz Wykowski talks with Terry Yin, a seasoned software product developer specializing in helping large-scale software development organizations. They discuss what Continuous Integration really means and why most teams that claim to be doing CI are, in fact, only running a CI server. Terry explains why integration tests can hide the lack of real integration, and how deterministic versioning, trunk-based development, and a shared codebase support true Continuous Integration in multi-team environments. They also discuss the organizational factors that make continuous integration difficult, how team goals and structures shape technical practices, and why high-quality engineering requires more than tooling. You will learn: why CI is not the same as having a CI server, how end-to-end tests support fast, reliable feedback, what “unit tests” should actually test, why deterministic versioning and trunk-based development matter, how organizational design influences technical practices. Recorded during the AgileByExample Conference in Warsaw. Learn more about Terry at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/terryyin/&amp;nbsp; Terry’s LeSS in Action course: https://less.works/course-details/less-in-action-large-product-developers-a-k-a-the-glad-developers-amstelveen-4089&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Get Agile Podcast https://procognita.com/getagile <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/39190950/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/88AA3C/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/item/39190950