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  <title>#202 Zackonomics and the budget with Phil Armstrong (part 1)</title>
  <description>(Part 1) Patricia and Christian talk to Dr Phil Armstrong about the upcoming UK budget, and Green Party leader Zack Polanski’s positive views of MMT. &amp;amp;nbsp; Full conversation here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/142975558 &amp;amp;nbsp; Please help sustain this podcast!&amp;amp;nbsp; Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast &amp;amp;nbsp; &amp;amp;nbsp; All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 &amp;amp;nbsp; All our patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/57542767 &amp;amp;nbsp; LIVE EVENT! 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Details of Modern Money Lab’s online graduate, postgraduate and standalone courses in economics are here: https://modernmoneylab.org.au/  &amp;amp;nbsp; Relevant to this episode:  “Universal Basic Income or a Job Guarantee?” The Gower Initiative for Modern Money Studies:  https://gimms.org.uk/fact-sheets/universal-basic-income/ “Comparing Post-Keynesianism and Modern Monetary Theory: The Importance of Ontology and Sociology” (2025) By Neil Wilson and Phil Armstrong:  https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5337254&amp;amp;nbsp; “Should we favour a Job Guarantee over a Universal Basic Income as a means of achieving a more socially just society?” by Catherine Armstrong:  https://gimms.org.uk/2023/07/08/should-we-favour-a-job-guarantee-over-a-universal-basic-income-as-a-means-of-achieving-a-more-socially-just-society/ For more on the endogenous money view (the non-fringe, very mainstream view that bank loans create deposits, not the other way around), listen to episode 126 - Dirk Ehnts: How Banks Create Money: https://www.patreon.com/posts/62603318 and episode 43 - Sam Levey: Understanding Endogenous Money: https://www.patreon.com/posts/35073683 Order the Gower Initiative’s “Modern Monetary Theory - Key Insights, Leading Thinkers”:  https://www.e-elgar.com/shop/gbp/modern-monetary-theory-9781802208085.html For more on the (Liz) Trussageddon, listen to Episode 147 - Dirk Ehnts: Do Markets Control Our Politics?:  https://www.patreon.com/posts/episode-147-dirk-72906421 “How to Fight Back Against the False Idea that the Government is at the Mercy of Financial Markets” by Sheridan Kates:  https://thealternative.org.uk/dailyalternative/2025/3/10/scotonomics-monetary-autonomy &amp;quot;There is no need to issue public debt” by Bill Mitchell: https://billmitchell.org/blog/?p=31715 Episode 148 - Pavlina Tcherneva: Why The Job Guarantee Is Core To Modern Monetary Theory:  https://www.patreon.com/posts/episode-148-why-73211346 Quick read: Pavlina Tcherneva’s Job Guarantee FAQ page: https://pavlina-tcherneva.net/job-guarantee-faq/  &amp;amp;nbsp; For an intro to MMT:  Our first three episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41742417 Episode 126 - Dirk Ehnts: How Banks Create Money: https://www.patreon.com/posts/62603318  &amp;amp;nbsp; Quick MMT reads:  Warren’s Mosler’s MMT white paper: http://moslereconomics.com/mmt-white-paper/ Steven Hail’s quick MMT explainer:  https://theconversation.com/explainer-what-is-modern-monetary-theory-72095 Quick explanation of government debt and deficit: “Some Numbers Are Big. Let Me Help You Get Over It”:  https://christreilly.com/2020/02/17/some-numbers-are-big-let-me-help-you-get-over-it/  &amp;amp;nbsp; &amp;amp;nbsp; For a short, non-technical, free ebook explaining MMT, download Warren Mosler’s “7 Deadly Innocent Frauds Of Economic Policy” here:  http://moslereconomics.com/wp-content/powerpoints/7DIF.pdf &amp;amp;nbsp; &amp;amp;nbsp; Episodes on monetary operations:&amp;amp;nbsp;  Episode 20 - Warren Mosler: The MMT Money Story (part 1): https://www.patreon.com/posts/28004824 Episode 126 - Dirk Ehnts: How Banks Create Money: https://www.patreon.com/posts/62603318 Episode 13 - Steven Hail: Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Banking, But Were Afraid To Ask: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41790887 Episode 43 - Sam Levey: Understanding Endogenous Money: https://www.patreon.com/posts/35073683&amp;amp;nbsp; Episode 84 - Andrew Berkeley, Richard Tye &amp;amp;amp; Neil Wilson: An Accounting Model Of The UK Exchequer (Part 1): https://www.patreon.com/posts/46352183 Episode 86 - Andrew Berkeley, Richard Tye &amp;amp;amp; Neil Wilson: An Accounting Model Of The UK Exchequer (Part 2): https://www.patreon.com/posts/46865929&amp;amp;nbsp;  &amp;amp;nbsp; For more on Quantitative Easing:  Episode 59 - Warren Mosler: What Do Central Banks Do?: https://www.patreon.com/posts/39070023 Episode 143 - Paul Sheard: What Is Quantitative Easing?: https://www.patreon.com/posts/71589989?pr=true&amp;amp;nbsp;  &amp;amp;nbsp; Episodes on inflation:  Episode 7: Steven Hail: Inflation, Price Shocks and Other Misunderstandings: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41780508 Episode 65 - Phil Armstrong: Understanding Inflation: https://www.patreon.com/posts/40672678 Episode 104 - John T Harvey: Inflation, Stagflation &amp;amp;amp; Healing The Nation: https://www.patreon.com/posts/52207835 Episode 123 - Warren Mosler: Understanding The Price Level And Inflation: https://www.patreon.com/posts/59856379 Episode 128 - L. Randall Wray &amp;amp;amp; Yeva Nersisyan: What’s Causing Accelerating Inflation? Pandemic Or Policy Response?: https://www.patreon.com/posts/63776558  &amp;amp;nbsp; Our Job Guarantee episodes:&amp;amp;nbsp;  Episode 4 - Fadhel Kaboub: What is the Job Guarantee?: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41742701 Episode 47 - Pavlina Tcherneva: Building Resilience - The Case For A Job Guarantee: https://www.patreon.com/posts/36034543 Episode 148 - Pavlina Tcherneva: Why The Job Guarantee Is Core To Modern Monetary Theory:  https://www.patreon.com/posts/episode-148-why-73211346 Quick read: Pavlina Tcherneva’s Job Guarantee FAQ page: https://pavlina-tcherneva.net/job-guarantee-faq/  &amp;amp;nbsp; More on government bonds (and “vigilantes”):  Episode 30 - Steven Hail: Understanding Government Bonds (Part 1):https://www.patreon.com/posts/29621245 Episode 31 - Steven Hail: Understanding Government Bonds (Part 2): https://www.patreon.com/posts/29829500 Episode 143 - Paul Sheard: What Is Quantitative Easing?: https://www.patreon.com/posts/71589989?pr=true Episode 147 - Dirk Ehnts: Do Markets Control Our Politics?:  https://www.patreon.com/posts/episode-147-dirk-72906421 Episode 144 - Warren Mosler: The Natural Rate Of Interest Is Zero: https://www.patreon.com/posts/71966513 Episode 145 - John T Harvey: What Determines Currency Prices?: https://www.patreon.com/posts/72283811?pr=true  &amp;amp;nbsp; More on bank runs banking regulation:&amp;amp;nbsp;  Episode 162 - Warren Mosler: Anatomy Of A Bank Run: https://www.patreon.com/posts/80157783?pr=true Episode 163 - L. Randall Wray: Breaking Banks - The Fed’s Magical Monetarist Thinking Strikes Again: https://www.patreon.com/posts/80479169?pr=true Episode 165 - Robert Hockett: Sparking An Industrial Renewal By Building Banks Better: https://www.patreon.com/posts/81084983?pr=true MMT founder Warren Mosler’s Proposals for the Treasury, the Federal Reserve, the FDIC, and the Banking System:  https://neweconomicperspectives.org/2010/02/warren-moslers-proposals-for-treasury.html  &amp;amp;nbsp; &amp;amp;nbsp; MMT Events And Courses:  More information about Professor Bill Mitchell’s MMTed project (free public online courses in MMT) here: http://www.mmted.org/ Details of Modern Money Lab’s online graduate and postgraduate courses in MMT and real-world economics are here: https://modernmoneylab.org.au/  &amp;amp;nbsp; &amp;amp;nbsp; Order the Gower Initiative’s “Modern Monetary Theory - Key Insights, Leading Thinkers”:  https://www.e-elgar.com/shop/gbp/modern-monetary-theory-9781802208085.html &amp;amp;nbsp; MMT Academic Resources compiled by The Gower Initiative for Modern Money Studies:  https://www.zotero.org/groups/2251544/mmt_academic_resources_-_compiled_by_the_gower_initiative_for_modern_money_studies &amp;amp;nbsp; MMT scholarship compiled by New Economic Perspectives: http://neweconomicperspectives.org/mmt-scholarship &amp;amp;nbsp; &amp;amp;nbsp; A list of MMT-informed campaigns and organisations worldwide: https://www.patreon.com/posts/47900757 &amp;amp;nbsp; &amp;amp;nbsp; We are working towards full transcripts, but in the meantime, closed captions for all episodes are available on our YouTube channel:  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEp_nGVTuMfBun2wiG-c0Ew/videos &amp;amp;nbsp; &amp;amp;nbsp; Show notes:  https://www.patreon.com/posts/143438983?pr=true </description>
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