1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 A new Craftwork conversation with ⁠Matthew Clark Davison⁠ and ⁠Alice LaPlante⁠, co-authors of ⁠The Lab: Experimentsin Writing Across Genre⁠, available from W. W. Norton &amp;amp; Col. Davison is the author of Doubting Thomas and founder of The Lab, a generative writing workshop. He is emeritus faculty in Creative Writing at San Francisco State University, and lives in Oakland, California with his husband. LaPlante is the author of the craft book The Making of a Story and the New York Times best-selling novel Turn of Mind. She has taught creative writing at Stanford and San Francisco State University and lives in Mallorca, Spain, with her family. *** ⁠⁠⁠Otherppl with Brad Listi⁠⁠⁠&amp;nbsp;is a weekly literary podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available:&amp;nbsp;⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠,&amp;nbsp;⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠,&amp;nbsp;⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠,&amp;nbsp;etc. Subscribe to&amp;nbsp;⁠⁠⁠Brad Listi’s email newsletter⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠Support the show on Patreon⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Merch⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠&amp;nbsp; ⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Bluesky⁠⁠⁠ Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a&amp;nbsp;⁠⁠⁠proud affiliate partner of Bookshop⁠⁠⁠, working to support local, independent bookstores. Otherppl with Brad Listi http://otherppl.com <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/37466930/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/88AA3C/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/content/190941380