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Ep 180 — John Taylor 1886 Permanent Polygamy Revelation | National Treasure
The Church History Library of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints just dropped a revelatory bomb on the Mormon history community and we’re gunna talk about it. John Taylor (prophet 1880-1887) wrote a revelation saying that the new and everlasting covenant is actually “everlasting” and cannot be revoked or abrogated. However, the prophet after Taylor, Wilford Woodruff, wrote the First Manifesto bringing the church into compliance with the law of the land. However, plural marriages continued to be performed. The Reed Smoot hearings turned the eyes of the nation to the kingdom of god in Deseret and every clandestine plural marriage put a lie to the Manifesto. Church leaders are excommunicated and it leads to the formation of the Fundamentalist Latter-day Saints. The church has suppressed this revelation in its vaults for nearly a century while openly denying that it even existed. After that we chat about more secrets hiding in plain sight with the movie National Treasure. We wrap with happy news about diabetes therapy and a gaggle of listener mail.   Show Notes:  https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/3aec2ea6-fdeb-4866-9529-47e27f9cd3b9/0/0?lang=eng https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/record/71550f40-40e2-4f22-a513-d9efed66649a/0?view=browse https://mormonr.org/qnas/vFgD6f/john_taylors_1886_revelation?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22720170685&gbraid=0AAAAAoS5E7acFZisa2VHLpSqmjwjxuxAo&gclid=Cj0KCQjw953DBhCyARIsANhIZoZY8hL6lOziHIlmcVnNbCHkiECSLz8brsdbJy0ni61rrba3Qcklb8oaAkVpEALw_wcB https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/lds-church-authority-and-new-plural-marriages-1890-1904/ https://mormonr.org/qnas/vFgD6f/john_taylors_1886_revelation/research#re-fbkJxk-qnXgKg https://bhroberts.org/records/fbkJxk-bB2xDk/byu_religious_studies_center_publication_on_john_taylor_discusses_the_1886_revelation https://bhroberts.org/files/bHthmd/scan-bB2xDk-bHthmd.pdf?r=bB2xDk&t=eyJhbGciOiJkaXIiLCJlbmMiOiJBMjU2R0NNIn0..Ljnea7CqFcI514tv.MWAtt1USKQyIBx5hJeD1he-VlQl6HV5eDevc9XGHctIBqDnl3hQ6UY9uGlOYy3cJoJ6SG7H9UgXWNRtSHGg4AWQTt76BTFyruwynbZPv-ta9Sqwc1MiNTMA4D5bJ0wDKNLqn1I1ZW96aQh9fE3XonduR9AeovvqRkhlf80-xZsjjnHaGWGILhfe6hlbWunSLVvMxtMKbcmJywR4aR8z_2aD9_NRxC1-fb0e3If80Vy9otGsidu2NjHcmecljQwblGIFvHsSDUoBKqB8NH7VohmRAoJxTnqjoy8vYxcyw0j7Q8HcUBPyzQmLSU_lvRxvRly2pxjTCo6Ng-OlNVohEmFSQAWXo80Qi7R54xy1xIvW2_lP0pXMRw9VRIizzbfUcmspMcRwqC0aBtSI9_QhVFAiom1w.DIL9f7HVhjoKTWkeFO1Sqw https://mormonpolygamydocuments.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/1886-Revelation-article.pdf https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/John_Taylor%27s_statements_regarding_polygamy https://rsc.byu.edu/champion-liberty-john-taylor/john-revelator-written-revelations-john-taylor#_note-40 https://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2025/06/john-taylor-and-the-1886-revelation/ https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/person/john-taylor https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/first-annual-message-first-term https://josephsmithfoundation.org/john-taylors-last-days-vision-1877/ https://www.fromthedesk.org/john-taylor-revelations/#_ftn1 https://rsc.byu.edu/champion-liberty-john-taylor/john-revelator-written-revelations-john-taylor#_noteref-14 https://web.archive.org/web/20080309131303/http://gainesjunction.tamu.edu/issues/vol3num1/ishin/ishin.pdf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JYcVJKnfmg https://rsc.byu.edu/prophets-apostles-last-dispensation/john-whittaker-taylor https://historicalgeneralconferences.weebly.com/john-w-taylor.html https://tokensandsigns.org/betrayed-for-loyalty-john-w-taylor-and-polygamy/ https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/09/John-W.-Taylor-Trial.pdf https://sunstone.org/john-w-woolley-as-a-highly-trusted-mormon-from-september-1886-to-december-1913/ https://mormonfundamentalism.com/history/lorin-c-woolley-and-his-council-of-seven-friends/ https://mormonpolygamydocuments.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/MF0273.pdf https://mormonfundamentalism.com/1886-revelation-importance/ https://www.fromthedesk.org/joseph-white-musser-mormon-fundamentalist/ https://prophetsseersandrevelators.wordpress.com/2022/09/01/third-manifesto/ https://www.intermountainhistories.org/items/show/704 https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/first-annual-message-first-term   MOGP: National Treasure: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0368891/?ref_=tt_rvi_i_7  Where it’s streaming: https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/national-treasure  Information about Charles Carroll: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Carroll_of_Carrollton#  Explore the Knights Templar:  https://www.centreofexcellence.com/the-knights-templar/#    Happy News: A new diabetes treatment could free people from insulin injections: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/type-1-diabetes-cell-therapy-insulin    Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism. 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