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  <title>How to Build a Culture While the Last Generation Lets Go</title>
  <description>What does it really look like to step in as 2nd Generation &amp;amp;amp; a lead a fabrication shop when the 1st Generation is still helping run it?&amp;amp;nbsp; In this episode, Jason Hayes, President of Top Coat Fabrication, shares his journey as a 2nd generation leader navigating the slow handoff of full responsibility from his parents, while carrying nearly all of the day-to-day load. Jason shares what it's taken to build a culture that people want to return to even AFTER a layoff.&amp;amp;nbsp; This episode covers how even during market shifts &amp;amp;amp; team fluctuations, they have a focus on scaling without losing trust &amp;amp;amp; investing in team-wide connection every. single. week.&amp;amp;nbsp; It's not ping pong tables. It's consistency, buy-in, and leadership that shows up.&amp;amp;nbsp; You'll learn:&amp;amp;nbsp;  How to scale up and down without losing your culture Why simple weekly habits shape long-term culture What it looks like to grow your business AND your people at the same time  Timestamps: 01:06 – Welcome to MakingSparks 03:12 – Jason Hayes &amp;amp;amp; Top Coat History 09:18 – Leading alongside Mom &amp;amp;amp; Dad: Where Top Coat is now 14:59 – Who’s running what? A look at their leadership transition 15:18 – Top Coat’s team size &amp;amp;amp; managing workforce fluctuations 16:00 – Culture as the reason people return 21:28 – Weekly company-wide challenges &amp;amp;amp; meetings 26:14 – The real ROI of investing in your people 28:23 – Using LinkedIn to connect, not to close 34:17 – Why showing your values isn’t bad for business 43:01 – The hardest part of leading people—done with grace Resources:&amp;amp;nbsp; Join our Facebook Group for conversations that will help grow your business: https://www.facebook.com/share/g/1Dspnz4Qt5/&amp;amp;nbsp; Top Coat Fabrication on LinkedIn:&amp;amp;nbsp;https://www.linkedin.com/company/top-coat-fabrication/&amp;amp;nbsp; Jason Hayes on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-hayes-3a0a327a/&amp;amp;nbsp; Lights Out podcast by MakingChips: https://www.makingchips.com/lights-out&amp;amp;nbsp; By The Numbers with Mike Payne: https://www.makingchips.com/by-the-numbers&amp;amp;nbsp; SmartDollar by Dave Ramsey: https://www.ramseysolutions.com/business/smartdollar Forging Ahead: https://www.nixcompanies.com/forging-ahead-book-order/&amp;amp;nbsp; </description>
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