1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 In this episode of the&amp;nbsp;Goats of Growth podcast, I had the pleasure of interviewing Candidate 8, a sales professional with a unique background in ministry. We discussed his transition from being a pastor to building a career in technology and cybersecurity, and the vital role that empathy and relationship-building play in sales. Candidate 8 shared powerful insights on personal growth through adversity, the value of in-person communication, and his aspirations for future leadership roles. We also touched on work ethic, life lessons, and the journey of redefining oneself in a new career path. Chapters 00:00&amp;nbsp;Introduction to the Goats of Growth Podcast 01:16 From Ministry to Technology: A Unique Career Path 03:40 Building Relationships and Empathy in Sales 07:54 Learning from Challenges: Growth in Sales 12:39 Finding Comfort in the Sales Process 16:16 Future Aspirations: Leadership and Growth 19:09 Mantras and Life Lessons 22:55 Redefining Oneself: Skills and Growth The Goats Of Growth http://overquota.libsyn.com/website <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/36726205/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/88AA3C/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/item/36726205