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LH #111 Is D.E.I. Now D.O.A.? with Amri B. Johnson
The Battle To Keep Inclusion on the Organizational Agenda. Is Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (D.E.I.) under existential threat? With political shifts and corporate cutbacks, is this the end of D.E.I. as we know it—or just a moment of transformation? In this episode, John Helmer speaks with Amri B. Johnson, author of Reconstructing Inclusion and CEO of Inclusion Wins, about the evolving landscape of D.E.I. in the workplace. They discuss whether D.E.I. is fundamentally flawed, if it will persist under different branding, and how organizations should adapt to changing times. Amri's links: Dr. Jonathan Ashong-Lamptey https://www.linkedin.com/in/drjonathan/ Dr. Lauran Star https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauranstar/ Dr. David Livermore https://davidlivermore.com/ Dr. R. Roosevelt Thomas, Jr. https://sdms360.com/2017/11/30/the-shamming-of-diversity/ Frederick G. Falker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajf1iMlwi_o Peter Mousaferiadis https://www.linkedin.com/in/petermousaferiadis/ Aubrey Blanche-Sarellano https://www.linkedin.com/in/adblanche/   TIMESTAMPS: • 00:00 – Start • 01:09 – Intro • 04:36 – Does he still have a job? • 11:30 – Is the language of D.E.I. one of the problems with it? • 22:19 – Will D.E.I. persist, but change its name and go underground? • 25:40 – How does he respond to the studies that show D.E.I. training doesn’t work? • 30:26 – Is D.E.I. just ‘woke capital’ at work? • 51:41 – End   Connect with Amri B. Johnson: • Website: Inclusion Wins • LinkedIn: Amri B. Johnson’s Profile • Twitter: @amribjohnson   Follow The Learning Hack: Website: learninghackpodcast.com LinkedIn: John Helmer X (Twitter): @johnhelmer Bluesky: @johnhelmer.bsky.social  
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