1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 The guys start with definitions and a little talk about privacy of thought and asolipsism Bruce asks about the granting of intelligence for argumentative purposes Sean gives his definitions of the difference between virtual and artificial intelligence Ryver asks how we might know the difference Sean talks about the Turing test its strengths and weaknesses Bruce asks if the god's eye view might not break the vision of intelligence the guys toss around the notion of an AI having a virtual world to be compared to and whether or not it would know there was anything else outside its artificial world Bruce likens the theoretical AI to a child learning about the world Sean asks if the AI's reality would extend beyond the machine to the external world Ryver asks how anonymity effects the ability to believe in the outside world Bruce suggests that the AI may extrapolate a model of the outside world Sean argues that it would not know this as another greater reality but more as if it were a game Bruce suggests that it may view our world as a conspiracy theory Sean suggests that to an AI the notion of our biological/physical world would seem so alien as to be absurd Ryver suggests that the inability to directly observe is the problem Bruce suggests that the AI might be atheistic in regard to humans Sean likens the AI's understanding of physical reality to our experience of dinosaurs if we had no evidence Bruce points out that the topic has shifted to would an AI believe in us Sean counters that this is a crucial piece because for an AI to know it is an AI it must understand that there are different intelligence Bruce wonders if the AI's inability to believe in our intelligence isn't telling of our ability to believe in AI Ryver brings us back to Cylon's Sean talks a little BSG lore Bruce points out that in order to question the AI's experience we first have to have granted that it has a Cartesian theater Sean points out that arguing about whether or not a strong AI could exist is a bit of dead horse beating Ryver brings up Moore's law and the kind of futurism that leads to asking questions about AI Bruce talks about semantics and syntax as seen in John Searle's work and David Chalmers philosophical zombies Sean talks about Cylon's levels of self awareness and the awareness of humans about the presence of Cylon's Ryver talks about Cylon's and emotions Sean brings up replicants and Blade Runner The guys talk about the Voight-Kampff test and what it tells us about our ideas of humanity Ryver relates this back to existentialism Bruce talks about the desire for humanity Sean relates the inability to differentiate to a kind of creeping nihilism Ryver points out that Philip K Dick had always intended for the story to leave us unsure if Deckard the main character was himself a replicant Sean talks about the 4 stages of nihilism in Nietzsche's work and the relationship between human and replicant Bruce asks if a Cylon that doesn't know what it is becomes aware does that destroy part of who that &amp;ldquo;person&amp;rdquo; was before? &amp;nbsp; The guys kick around that it means to have your world view drastically changed suddenly Ryver brings in the concept of dreaming and what we mean by it in the title Sean breaks down sleep dreams and aspirational dreams Sean takes the last word to puzzle a bit about why we find the topic of sci-fi, artificial intelligence, and what it means to be human so fascinating Help keep the show going and the moon safe by supporting us on Patreon https://patreon.com/Philosophy Help keep us from disappearing by engaging us on the social media platform of your choice: http://www.philosophicalchaingang.com http://www.reddit.com/r/professormetal http://www.twitter.com/PChainGang https://www.facebook.com/PChainGang https://www.pinterest.com/PChainGang/ http://pchaingang.tumblr.com/ Professor Metal's Irate Debate and Calamitous Commentary http://www.PhilosophicalChainGang.com <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3461827/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/88AA3C/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/content/8892650