1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 Mark introduces the topic of communication and within that general topic, the subtopic of persuasion. He then emphasizes the value of having a framework. He puts our framework in perspective Jim chimes in about the idea of having a framework and emphasizes the IMC framework Jim shares his 5 W’s framework and how helpful it has been for him in a variety of projects. How it adds perspective for both parties He shares the value of effective people being clear Jim asks Mark about his framework Mark shares his childhood influences around communication and then his framework What do you say? How do you say it? To whom do you say it? When do you say it? Both guys agree they made their frameworks theirs…no matter where it came from Mark brings up the image Jim shared and begins to share the examples of lazy responses versus helpful responses The guys dig into examples of how powerful specific words are and how changing a word can change the tone of the whole conversation Problem versus “opportunity” or “challenge” All the specific examples from Jim’s image become the conversations Each example uncovers how simple shifts, different words change the whole tone and emotion of the conversation Both guys share their experience with each example and how they have both made the mistake of using the lazy language and relearned the helpful response They both emphasize the importance of not apologizing. Never apologize unless you’ve done real wrong Mark shares - don’t say, “to be honest with you”. “Frank” or Jim’s option “transparent” They discuss transparency as a double edged sword “I’m too busy” means I’m too busy for you They both have a laugh about “too busy” “That’s not my” job versus, “let me get you to the right person” Mark shares his mentor’s story about personal accountability “I’ll try” versus “I’ll take care of it”. Jim has a different angle on this one Mark frames it as personal accountability. I won’t dismiss you, we’ll get it taken care of Apologizing comes up again and both guys reiterate the problem with saying you’re sorry Jim uses “I own that one”. “That one’s on me”. Take ownership Mark - “sorry never works for me unless you really fucked something up” Mark shares some media examples of how apologies become bigger problems Jim says behaviors are more important than words - Mark agrees The next example is disagreement - “You’re wrong” versus “I have a different perspective on this than you and I’d like to share it with you” Jim cites people who actually enjoy conflict to garner attention “This might sound stupid but…” versus&amp;nbsp; “Let’s try this.” Naysayers are everywhere Jim agrees as an inventor he always shares new ideas…the value of reframing ideas until consensus is established Mark brings up Jordan Peterson talking about Elon Musk and comparison (Elon’s roommate story) Jim - All comparison leads to misery Jim shares “I have an hypothesis” versus a theory. An hypothesis is designed to be challenged…designed to be criticized He shares the difference between an hypothesis and a theory A theory has been proven. An hypothesis has not yet been proven “No worries”… “I’m happy to help” Both guys discuss the nuance of this one Mark feels like “no worries” is kind of a throw away They conclude that this whole exercise is an exercise in self awareness The final example is recommending something to someone ‘I think maybe we should” versus “I recommend we do this…” Jim says “I think” makes him feel like “Why should I listen to you” Mark finishes with his 4 pronged framework He confirms that listening and asking questions before speaking is almost always the best strategy Jim finishes with the value of clarifying assumptions, discussing desired outcomes, “who, not how” and what are the necessary resources? Mark shares his support of this as authentic…for both parties Imperfect Mens Club https://www.imperfectmensclub.com <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/33735077/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/88AA3C/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/content/180577112