1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 In this episode of The Ferment, Adam continues his conversation with John Mark McMillan. John Mark shares some wisdom with young creators about playing the long game, making a heart connection with the listeners, vulnerability and building a team. They also talk about the role of ritual in surpassing the surface magic to cultivate moments of deep magic. John Mark McMillan is an artist and Platinum-selling songwriter. Show Notes: John Mark McMillan's Website Listen to&amp;nbsp;Deep Magic John Mark on The Ferment 10/25/20 John Mark on The Ferment 9/18/19 The Ferment Podcast - Conversations About Worship And Transformation http://thefermentpodcast.com <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/30290858/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/88AA3C/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/content/168821548