1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 In this episode, we sit down with Jill Gunter, co-founder of Espresso, to discuss: Espresso's original mission and the challenges of building a privacy solution Shifting direction to focus on building infrastructure to help L2 rollups decentralize The role of a sequencer in a rollup and how Espresso intends to decentralize it Trading off centralized sequencer revenue for decentralization and permissionlessness Visit Espresso for more. &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; On The Brink with Castle Island https://castleisland.libsyn.com/website <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/29238098/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/2f3976/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/item/29238098