1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 A tremendous discussion with defense lawyer and ABT Narrative Gym book coauthor Doug Passon plus his trial lawyering collaborator Patrick Barone, Esq. about their use of “Psychodrama” in preparation for defending their clients. &amp;nbsp;It’s a great discussion of how they are both using the ABT and Dobzhansky, as well as Doug’s ABT analysis of the iconic Miranda Rights pointing out the (quite possibly intentional) lack of narrative strength in the statement. Randy Olsonhttps://twitter.com/ABTagenda​ Randy's Blog:&amp;nbsp;http://scienceneedsstory.com Learn more about the ABT Framework Course: http://www.abtframework.com/ Doug Passon https://www.dougpassonlaw.com/ https://twitter.com/dougpassonlaw Set For Sentencing Podcast: &amp;nbsp;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/set-for-sentencing/id1622272089 Patrick Barone https://www.baronedefensefirm.com https://www.michiganpsychodramacenter.com/ ABT Time http://scienceneedsstory.com/ <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/28748978/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/88AA3C/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/content/164081783