1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 Since you last heard from us at Justice in America, we’re excited to share that The Appeal became a worker-led nonprofit newsroom. We are continuing to expose the harms of the criminal legal system and elevate solutions that keep all people safe.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; While Justice in America remains on hiatus for now, we are thrilled to share our first podcast episode since our relaunch: a co-produced episode of &quot;The Wall: Behind and Beyond,&quot; hosted by Phillip A. Jones, who has spent more than 30 years in prison in Maryland and Washington.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; In this episode, Phillip interviews David Shipley about his experiences in a British &quot;open prison,&quot; where there are no guards, no bars, and prisoners are free to leave during the day to work or study in the community. As David says, &quot;It's the most free you can be while still being in prison.&quot; Phillip and David discuss the promises and limitations of this model, as well as the challenges in implementing a similar model in the United States. Please note: The this audio was recorded by Philip while in his cell as the Washington Department of Corrections does not provide prisoners with access to high-quality studios. &amp;nbsp; To support our work, please consider making a tax-deductible donation to The Appeal today or subscribe to our weekly newsletter. &amp;nbsp; You can also follow Phillip (@PhillipAJones71) and David (@ShipleyWrites) on Twitter and subscribe to The Wall: Behind and Beyond podcast to hear more of their work. Justice In America https://theappeal.org/ <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/27076026/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/88AA3C/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/content/153567330