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  <title>115 ACF and Lucee roundtable (Part 2) with Charlie Arehart, Gert Franz, Mark Drew and Ben Nadel</title>
  <description>Charlie Arehart, Gert Franz, Mark Drew and Ben Nadel talk about “ACF and Lucee roundtable (Part 2)” in this episode of the CF Alive Podcast, with host Michaela Light. Show notes Part 2 ideas Docs (links below): much more than just CFML Reference, for both  ACF   https://coldfusion.adobe.com/2017/11/did-you-know-theres-far-more-to-the-cf-docs-than-just-the-cfml-reference/&amp;amp;nbsp;   Lucee Cfdocs.org  ACF and Lucee and different versions Open “source” in that all can add examples   LearnCFinaWeek.com&amp;amp;nbsp; TryCFM.com CFFiddle.org (ACF) ACF CFML reference and tutorial (developer’s guide 3000 pages)  Adobe dox system - poor SEO / google search Prior versions PDF of all docs Good on keeping prior versions docs Good on features in each release and hotfixes  Lucee weaker on new features in new releases “Hacktoberfest Lucee bug month (October)   Charlies Hidden Gems posts and talks Ortus open-source GitBooks Learn CFML in 100 mins book IDE help - color coding, hover help, F1 on keywords Meta resource on CFML docs    Where do I get help (free &amp;amp;amp; paid)  Paid Tech support  Adobe CF support programs Lucee support by individual companies like Rasia, Ortus etc.  LAS donations for new features   Third parties eg Charlie Arehart, Mike Collins   Community support (free)  ACF  Adobe CF Forums community.coldfusion.com&amp;amp;nbsp; Adobe CF Portal cfinstal@adobe.com (Free install support)   Lucee  Lucee Forum/Mailing list (Discourse) hello@lucee.org (contact Lucee)   Both  CFML slack  Limited retention of posts due to free version (paid would be many thousands of dollars due to per seat cost) Mixed up topics as many folks don’t use threads Linen exposes Slack content  https://cfml.linen.dev     Twitter Facebook CF programmers group Ortus Discord   SlackOverflow  Google searchable Used by Ganter analysts in programming language reports   Tiobe index (supposedly rates “popularity” of languages)  CF usually ranks poorly How it really works:  “Basically the calculation comes down to counting hits for the search query  +&amp;quot;&amp;amp;lt;language&amp;amp;gt; programming&amp;quot;   From  https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/programminglanguages_definition/&amp;amp;nbsp;        Conferences  IntoTheBox (in-person and remote, in Sept) CF Summit (in-person and remote, in Oct) CFCamp (postponed again for 2022) Meta listing of them, with dates, locations, links  https://www.cf411.com/cfconf    How to find ACF and Lucee developers?  Drive for new CF developers  Bringing in other modern languages    CFML training  Meta resource of free CFML training resources ACF cert CFCasts.com YouTube Ortus Paid training:  https://www.cf411.com/cftrainers   Other CFML resources (meta resource of them):  https://www.cf411.com/cfres    Podcasts  CF Alive Modernize or Die Working Code, with Adam Tuttle, Ben Nadel, Carol Hamilton, and Tim Cunningham Meta resource of podcasts  CF Engine compatibility  New features created by ACF and Lucee&amp;amp;nbsp; Backward compatibility to prior versions  Mentioned in this episode  ACF and Lucee panel Part 1 episode ____ ColdFusion at 25: More Modern than Most Realize ColdFusion Programmers FB group post about ACF and Lucee Adobe CF Docs Lucee Docs Facebook CF programmers group CFML slack Adobe CF Forums Adobe CF Portal Lucee Forum/Mailing list (Discourse) CFA Mark T episode on gigabytes of data ____ TryCFML  Bio Charlie Arehart  A veteran server troubleshooter who’s worked in enterprise IT for more than three decades, Charlie Arehart (@carehart) is a longtime community contributor who as an independent consultant provides short-term, remote, on-demand troubleshooting/tuning assistance for organizations of all sizes and experience levels (carehart.org/consulting). Links  Twitter Facebook LinkedIn Web&amp;amp;nbsp;  Gert Franz  Gert was born in 1967 and lives in Switzerland since 1997. He is one of the key people behind Lucee. Back in the late eighties he studied astrophysics in Munich but switched to later IT as a profession and programmed for several companies in the past as a database administrator and system analyst. Gert spoke a lot at all major conferences in the past and will for sure in the future. He is now a fellow at DistroKid. Links  gert (at) rasia.ch http://rasia.ch/ Twitter LinkedIn  Mark Drew  Mark Drew has been programming CFML since 1996, and even though he has had forays into Perl, ASP and PHP he is still loving every line of code he has crafted with CFML.&amp;amp;nbsp; He has been a strong advocate for open source, having worked on CFEclipse, Railo and now Lucee as well as a number of other projects. He tries to create a pull request a day, to keep the bugs at bay. By day he helps other developers as the lead DevOps engineer at DistroKid, ensuring that the carefully crafted artisanal code goes from laptop to server in the shortest time while keeping all its flavor. By night he develops games with CMD: Studio.&amp;amp;nbsp; He has been known to do a podcast too! called the Localhost Podcast in which we talk all about the web. He also talks about the process of making games on the Level Design Podcast Links  Twitter LinkedIn CFML Slack Mark (at) cmdhq.io https://anchor.fm/leveldesign https://localhost.fm/  Ben Nadel  Ben Nadel is the technical co-founder of InVision App, Inc - a digital product design platform used to make the world's best customer experiences. As the original CTO, Ben now spends his days as a Principal Engineer, leading maintenance and development efforts on InVision's legacy platform. This includes systems monitoring, database optimization, instrumentation, back-end work, front-end work, product ideation, and research-and-development. He envisions himself as a champion of the User Experience; and, often advocates for the User even in the face of internal opposition. Outside of work-hours, Ben wakes up at 5 am, seven days a week, so that he can attempt to stay on top of the rapidly changing world of web development. He uses these early-morning hours to read, conduct experiments, and write articles for his blog, BenNadel.com, which he has been running since 2006. Links  Ben Nadel | LinkedIn Ben Nadel blog  </description>
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