1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 Matt continues exploring how to make friends and expands on the theme from Episode 16 with his longest tenured friend, Oreste Jimenez (OJ). The two speak candidly about how two “ordinary” kids sustained their friendship for over 30 years, in the hopes that their story can illuminate the process for any and all people interested in building relationships of their own. Then, OJ and Matt explore wisdom more broadly using the Self Assessed Wisdom Scale (SAWS) in search of a new recipe for wisdom (24:40). Matt is a clinical social worker with 20 years of experience practicing, teaching, training, and consulting. He is currently a Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) practitioner, Aikido student, and a dabbling musician. Subscribe to this Podcast to follow his search for wisdom as he consults with wise people. Wise Elders https://www.wiseelderspodcast.com/ <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/23174315/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/88AA3C/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/content/128101466