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  <title>Freeing Jesus: A Conversation with religious scholar Diana Butler Bass</title>
  <description>“Get me out of here.” Five simple words religious scholar Diana Butler Bass heard repeatedly while sitting in a pew at the National Cathedral in Washington, DC. But why? And who was whispering this to her?&amp;amp;nbsp; Jesus. And she writes about why in her latest book, Freeing Jesus: Rediscovering Jesus as Friend, Teacher, Savior, Lord, Way, and Presence&amp;amp;nbsp; Diana and Marianne discuss what Jesus means to them individually and the importance of freeing him from the confines of doctrine and dogma. As Diana says, “When I think of Jesus I think of wisdom. I think of embodied compassion. I think of this incredible vision of justice.” More at MarianneWilliamson.Substack.com&amp;amp;nbsp; For more info about Diana visit DianaButlerBass.com </description>
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