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  <title>101 | Glenn Packiam on the 5 Types of Relationships Every Pastor Needs and the Illusion of Intimacy</title>
  <description>Glenn Packiam (pastor at New Life Church, Barna fellow) sits down with David Kinnaman and Carey Nieuwhof to discuss how to cultivate resilience in your leadership and the five types of relationships every pastor needs. &amp;amp;nbsp; – &amp;amp;nbsp; Go to  Barna.com/ResilientPastor to learn more about The Resilient Pastor book and listen to the new podcast hosted by Glenn Packiam. &amp;amp;nbsp; Watch this episode on Youtube:  Barna Group &amp;amp;nbsp; Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @davidkinnaman | @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group </description>
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