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  <title>Episode 165 - Interview with Juliana Moreno Patel of Wild Optimists</title>
  <description>In our one hundred and sixty-fifth episode, Aaron is joined by designer Juliana Moreno Patel of Wild Optimists. We talk about some games we’ve been playing, including&amp;amp;nbsp;7 Wonders: Architects and Pandemic Legacy: Season 0. Then I interview Juliana about designing escape room and puzzle games and their  Crimes &amp;amp; Capers series of games.   This episode is sponsored by&amp;amp;nbsp;MANSCAPED,&amp;amp;nbsp;Board Game Bliss&amp;amp;nbsp;and listeners like you on our&amp;amp;nbsp;Patreon  </description>
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